tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post701074657306042454..comments2023-11-03T04:00:20.994-05:00Comments on SNAFU!: Turkey is actually a supporter of ISIS?Solomonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05980277484445749796noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-70725804226278596452014-10-12T04:46:58.246-05:002014-10-12T04:46:58.246-05:00@ jaque mesrn
For our friend "jaque mesrn&qu...@ jaque mesrn<br /><br />For our friend "jaque mesrn" who whote on Friday, September 26 2014 (6:33:00 PM) that there is no proof that the beard men are ISIS members, there is also another, much better picture sending clear message. In following picture, you can see a Turkish border patrol soldier, possing with ISIS militants, on Turkish-Syrian borders. As far as I can see, they look too friendly together, aren't they?<br /><br />http://www.odatv.com/images/resimler/1%28331%29.jpgUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239378533293019702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-75889723083030349882014-10-03T11:54:46.847-05:002014-10-03T11:54:46.847-05:00According to the TURKISH newspaper, "Aydınlık...According to the TURKISH newspaper, "Aydınlık", ISIS has opened a consulate in Ankara, Turkey in order to issue visas to those who want to join ISIS and fight in Iraq<br /><br />- http://www.aydinlikdaily.com/Detail/ISIS-Opens-A-Consulate-In-Turkey/4576<br /><br />- http://awdnews.com/top-news/9885-isis-to-open-its-first-consulate-in-istanbul.html<br /><br />- http://www.iraqinews.com/arab-world-news/isis-opens-diplomatic-consulate-istanbul-turkeys-president-denies<br /><br />- http://shoebat.com/2014/09/29/turkey-allowed-isis-established-consulate-ankara-700-bureaus-stationed-throughout<br /><br />- http://therightscoop.com/report-isis-opens-a-consulate-in-turkey-for-recruitment<br /><br />- http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/islamic-stateisis-opens-first-consulate-in-islamist-turkey<br /><br />- http://en.annahar.com/article/176253-is-announces-it-intends-to-open-a-consululate-in-istanbul-leaving-erdogens-press<br /><br />...you want more?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239378533293019702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-32632530940052409282014-10-03T11:43:46.818-05:002014-10-03T11:43:46.818-05:00Your last answers reveal that you are misoriented....Your last answers reveal that you are misoriented. Let me help you and you might be smarter for future. According to UN and NATO sources:<br /><br />1) Iran provided PKK with supplies in the form of weapons and funds. I see no "Greek link" in the story<br /><br />2) PKK's leader Abdullah Öcalan was trained by KGB-FSB as ALSO revealed by the former KGB / FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko, who was poisoned in 2006. Russia is still not listing PKK as a terrorist group despite intense Turkish pressure. I still see no "Greek link" in the story<br /><br />3) Abdullah Öcalan TRIED to ask asylum on Greek embassy in Kenya on 1996, but Greek officials DENIED and the Greek goverment GAVE HIM DIRECTLY (as a gift) to the hands of Turkish agents, to be arrested IN KENYA. I still see no "Greek support" in the story<br /><br />4) Abdullah Öcalan had a Cypriot passport under the name of Mavros Lazaros. He also had (earlier) a Russian passport and (much earlier) a Lebanese passport. I still see no "Greek link" in the story!<br /><br />5) Can you give us a list of countries (except Turkey) that list (2014 facts please) the PKK as a terrorist group?<br /><br />6) PKK has not / had not any training camps in Lavron (maybe you mean Lavrion?) or any other place in Greek territory. Thats a totaly Turkish made myth, built up during late Torgut Ozal and early Tansut Ciler days. The sooner you'll get over this myth, the happier you ll be. If you still believe the myth, please do send some pictures or videos or offical documents as evidence of your claims. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and accept realilty - you have been deceived by your own government and its about time to wake up.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239378533293019702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-63432928502196910942014-10-02T19:25:44.547-05:002014-10-02T19:25:44.547-05:00Btw, where exactly is the embassy of IS in turkey?...Btw, where exactly is the embassy of IS in turkey?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09155837745906689598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-75638052230440095952014-10-02T19:23:54.593-05:002014-10-02T19:23:54.593-05:00I am not misoriented, but you.
Ok, let's mak...I am not misoriented, but you. <br /><br />Ok, let's make step by step.<br /><br />1. Öcalan was captured in 1990. This time PKK was not listed in Greece in terror list<br />2. Ocalan is an honorary citizen of Olympia<br />3. PKK has had train in camps in Lavron<br />4. Ocalan was captured in Kenia, where Greece want him free, after he left Greece (it was not a gift)<br />....<br /><br />Interview with Georgios Papandreou, ex foreign minister of Greece<br /><br />http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-10630215.html<br />http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Öcalan<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09155837745906689598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-59167215616343420032014-10-01T19:24:54.977-05:002014-10-01T19:24:54.977-05:00@ Serdar E, wow wow wow! Just a minute because I s...@ Serdar E, wow wow wow! Just a minute because I see you are a little misoriented. Actually, you are much misoriented...!<br /><br />The PKK leader (Ocalan) actual had a Cypriot passport given to him by Cypriot authorities because he asked for help, because his life was in danger - as far as I can remember, this happened around mid 1990ies. He also found shelter in the residence of some contacts (Greek citizens) he had in Greece. Finaly, after been hunted for few weeks / months, and after passing a number of middle easte and north african countries trying to break away from Turkish agents hunt, he asked asylum from Greek embassy in Kenya and the Greek goverment GAVE HIM AS A GIFT to the hands of Turkish agents, to be arrested. Thats for PKK leader, Ocalan. OK?<br /><br />As for your other comments, about "terror camps of PKK in Greece" you must be joking, right? I ve heard this Turkish claims but unfortunately, Turkey NEVER show any written evidence or any photo, or any video. You understand that this "claim" cannot stand without proof. So, if NO EVIDENCE ever found after around 15-20 years of this rumor, we have to accept that it was a propaganda. Do you really think that it would be possible for PKK "terrorists" to train in Athens (thats what Turkish side said) into some "training camps" where are locations that civilians can reach, and NOBODY ever had any kind of photo, video or else? NEVER? Is it possible these "PKK terrorists" be hidden so well into areas reachable by Turkish agents? I think not. By the same way, I could claim that ISIS terrorists receive their military training on the green grass alley of White House - would this could ever stand as a realistic claim? I think not...<br /><br />So, PLEASE if you have any kind of similar claims in future, do also send some photos that you are saying the truth. As for the last, all these "PKK terrorists in Greece" nonsenses were fictional scenarios of Tansout Ciler era goverment officials. Actualy these "PKK terrorists in Greece" claims are not even accepted today by the today's Turkish goverment! So, be real, be smart and dont bite what they serve you on TV...Pointmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224647563835859655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-10084144756233037382014-10-01T17:18:44.221-05:002014-10-01T17:18:44.221-05:00Are you kidding me? Armenia and Greece are/were on...Are you kidding me? Armenia and Greece are/were one of the biggest supporter of PKK. Armenia and Greece<br />identity card were found on Oecalan (PKK header). Terror camps of PKK were in Greece. You can proof it, if you don't believe. Germany is source of income and recruitment. Wiki can help you if you don't believe me.<br /><br />Pjak (sister party of PKK in Iran) is not on terrorist list by USA! They are supported by Israel and USA. Proof it.Actually, we have 1.5 mio refugees from Iraq and Syria. You can ask unesco or other UN institution how we treat the refugees. Btw, how many refugees do your country take?<br /><br />You don't like our "propaganda foto"? I guess people like you have better ones. People/county's like you are no more trustworthy for turkey. <br /><br />Where so you come from?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09155837745906689598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-11547851841282762092014-10-01T07:07:20.994-05:002014-10-01T07:07:20.994-05:00Twixter said: "...Islamic states trying to bu...Twixter said: "...Islamic states trying to build great Caliphate and good luck to them..."<br /><br />@ Twixter, let me ask you...<br /><br />- Did you just said "Good luck" to these mentaly unstable lunatics who like to decapitate innocent victims for fun?<br /><br />- Did you just said "Good luck" to these sexual perverts who want to be indecently abuse on 8 year old girls (and sometimes boys)?<br /><br />- Did you just said "Good luck" to these inhuman beasts who are obsessed killing with most barbaric way, just because their prophet said so?<br /><br />- Did you just said "Good luck" to these religion fanatics who dream to turn all Μankind 1000 years back?<br /><br />@ Twixter, are you insane?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239378533293019702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-5067084622680196862014-10-01T04:46:06.797-05:002014-10-01T04:46:06.797-05:00Islamic states trying to build great Caliphate, an...Islamic states trying to build great Caliphate, and good luck to them, this muslims pounding just ridiculous leave them alone.<br /><br />Its looks like every time when some islamic oil exporter trying to advance, both economically and technologically, its stoneaged by "certain parties", because "certain parties" need them as oil exporters and nothing more.<br /><br />9/11 was used as an excuse first time, now this fishy "decapitations" used as an excuse to prolong conflict and prevent IS to establish order and stop civil war by defeating opponets.Twixterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08475444240476005097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-54843732565912835042014-09-29T19:20:13.441-05:002014-09-29T19:20:13.441-05:00@ Serdar E, regarding your previous comments:
As ...@ Serdar E, regarding your previous comments:<br /><br />As for your ironic accusations against the EU, US, Armenia and Greece about supporting Kurds, do you really got some real evidence to show us or what you said are fictional scenarios and MIT-produced propaganda?<br /><br />Also, as for the picture you sent to show us all how Turkey welcoms refugees, when I saw the photos, I almost burst out crying - please pass my compliments to the head director of these nice-propaganda-photos. Now, to get serious, wanna also show us some real world photos about how Turkey polute EU with milions of 3rd Word illegal refuges (by the way, AAL of them are muslims) by letting them pass το EU through Turkey (with Turkish authorities help)?<br /><br />Also, have a look on the following article on AWD News, about how Islamic State announced that they are intending to inaugurate the first ISIS diplomatic mission in Istanbul in order to provide consular services for all who wish to join the extremist group in Iraq. In the same article, you ll find out that ISIS confirms that wounded ISIS militants transfered to Turkish hospitals to receive medical treatment.<br /><br />http://awdnews.com/top-news/9885-isis-to-open-its-first-consulate-in-istanbul.html<br /><br />Also, feel free to read the following article by Reuters, which reveals (as Isreali Military Inteligence head Major General Aviv Kochavi said) that al Qaeda's Syria (aka ISIS) fighters set up in Turkey, at three training camps at Şanlıurfa, Osmaniye and Karaman locations. You may say that it is not true, but as far as I know, when Israeli Inteligence have an "inside info" they usualy are accurate, dont you think so?<br /><br />http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/us-syria-crisis-turkey-israel-idUSBREA0S18X20140129<br /><br />As a final, have a look on the following map, to see which countries are actualy supports the US-led coalition against ISIS and who actually fights these muslim religion lunatics. Maybe I am wrong, but Turkey is not actualy fights ISIS - who knows, maybe they feel some kind of muslim religion brotherhood with the beheaders<br /><br />https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Byt9Ek0IIAI0Ry-.jpgUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239378533293019702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-18383935397982932982014-09-29T17:44:34.485-05:002014-09-29T17:44:34.485-05:00@Solomon
You will see how we welcome Kurdish refu...@Solomon<br /><br />You will see how we welcome Kurdish refugees? http://www.dailysabah.com/multimedia/gallery/world/turkey-welcomes-yazidis-fleeing-from-isis?albumId=66680Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09155837745906689598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-25193809599241371742014-09-29T17:37:05.343-05:002014-09-29T17:37:05.343-05:00It seems their are good terrorist and bad terroris...It seems their are good terrorist and bad terrorist. Of course, IS are bad terrorist. But who are good terrorist? PKK? Which are supporter by EU, US, Armenia and Greece in special.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09155837745906689598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-27717035714750276322014-09-28T10:39:00.867-05:002014-09-28T10:39:00.867-05:00I would remind everyone that this US administratio...I would remind everyone that this US administration has run guns to Mexican cartels for use against Mexican and US citizens without any accountability whatsoever. Does anyone really think that they're incapable of running guns, arms, advisors, and satellite intelligence to ISIS?SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-9362556288101334522014-09-28T10:33:40.710-05:002014-09-28T10:33:40.710-05:00TurkeyTurkeySandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-89915668644108739502014-09-27T14:43:03.907-05:002014-09-27T14:43:03.907-05:00i don't know what to believe and i haven't...i don't know what to believe and i haven't taken a position. i seek knowledge on this subject but i won't ignore open source materials that say x, y or z. neither will i accept outright propaganda.<br /><br />but violent messages get violent responses. i won't take fire without returning it.<br /><br />i asked a simple question. is Turkey supporting ISIS or not? quite honestly i'm seeing some stuff that says yes. the next question is why did the US see over 1500 christians killed, beheaded, raped and tortured and did nothing but two journalist die and then we suddenly decide to act.Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05980277484445749796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-17894121202220181322014-09-27T14:31:01.803-05:002014-09-27T14:31:01.803-05:00Solomon,
You are free to believe what you want bu...Solomon,<br /><br />You are free to believe what you want but Turkey supports coalition as much as he can.<br /><br />There are unconfirmed reports from area that jets entering from Turkish airspace to Syria.<br />We'll hear from official sources soon.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10085186056170230929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-82806975643728441902014-09-27T14:17:30.080-05:002014-09-27T14:17:30.080-05:00Iraq? Iraq is a sideshow. ISIS in Syria is the m...Iraq? Iraq is a sideshow. ISIS in Syria is the main effort and everyone knows it. don't parse statement and facts to fit your argument.Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05980277484445749796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-35394944140140118642014-09-27T13:58:25.309-05:002014-09-27T13:58:25.309-05:00Sorry I didnt understand what you mean?
British T...Sorry I didnt understand what you mean?<br /><br />British Tornadoes from Akrotiri joined operations in Northern Iraq today.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10085186056170230929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-43421491466539832792014-09-27T13:50:48.170-05:002014-09-27T13:50:48.170-05:00actually its not....at least for offensive air ope...actually its not....at least for offensive air operations. why do you think the best thing the Brits can bring to the campaign is their Tankers and NOT their Tornadoes.Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05980277484445749796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-50523132891042452302014-09-27T13:48:35.890-05:002014-09-27T13:48:35.890-05:00AFAIK Turkish airspace and Incirlik AFB is in use ...AFAIK Turkish airspace and Incirlik AFB is in use against ISIS as we speak.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10085186056170230929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-636927556992630672014-09-27T13:42:03.789-05:002014-09-27T13:42:03.789-05:00thats a pretty piss poor threat. i could care les...thats a pretty piss poor threat. i could care less about those bases. as a matter of fact they cost us more than they're worth. consider that even as we speak we can't launch strikes from them. so WHAT ARE THEY GOOD FOR?????<br /><br />as far as allies in that region...who gives a fuck. from my seat everyone except Israel is double dealing.Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05980277484445749796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-59999912597539026922014-09-27T13:36:48.907-05:002014-09-27T13:36:48.907-05:00Or... maybe we can realign with Russia like Egypt ...Or... maybe we can realign with Russia like Egypt did.<br /><br />And you can say goodbye to your Incirlik and Kurecik bases not to mention Blacksea.<br /><br />Be careful, though, you are runnig out of allies in that part of the world. <br /><br />Wonder why...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10085186056170230929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-54984764812736595212014-09-27T12:48:06.830-05:002014-09-27T12:48:06.830-05:00@ semih kemal,
Your answer is really enlighting &...@ semih kemal,<br /><br />Your answer is really enlighting & shows a lot about the "Turkish" way (release a "smokebomb" to cover the main subject), but does not really answers our main question if Turkey supports ISIS or not. As Solomon said before, "IS YOUR COUNTRY SUPPORTING THEM OR NOT! YES OR NO!"<br /><br />As for your "how we behave to refugees in Turkey" comment, I would recomend to study some "HISTORY" first and be informed about how Turkey always "behave to refugees". In case the word "HISTORY" might not link directly to "TURKEY", please try the word "CRIMINAL RECORD" instead, which for sure link directly to your "Turkiye".Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239378533293019702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-88517364024964165712014-09-27T10:59:15.132-05:002014-09-27T10:59:15.132-05:00What and who the fuck are you,
You (US and EU ) h...What and who the fuck are you,<br />You (US and EU ) have been supported terrorrist groups against Turkiye as PKK , ASALA.<br />This is our turn, Turkiye is growing, developing, see ,this is Big Turkey like in the past Ottoman , fear from us.<br /><br />Ohh yeahh we will fuck all traitors and factionists.<br /><br /><br />and these are how we behave to refugees,<br /><br />Turkiye has been looked up 1.5 million refugees for 3 years.<br /><br />http://goo.gl/0UpcPV<br />http://goo.gl/dsmVHu<br />http://goo.gl/O9mWdW<br />http://goo.gl/beHPdn<br /><br />And this photois from when Turkiye is opening doors to refugees, factionist MPs is throving stones to soldiers.<br /><br />http://goo.gl/nXQO6r<br /> <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10573842867271939312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098674444128189886.post-68606642524240324362014-09-27T04:47:02.124-05:002014-09-27T04:47:02.124-05:00The points about Turkey raised by "Unknown&qu...The points about Turkey raised by "Unknown" on this thread are supported in a video called The Covert Origins of ISIS that is a collection of mainstream news reports and raw footage. <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA<br /><br />Even if one does not agree with all of the 'opinions' presented in the clip there is still a great deal of content that cannot be explained away in terms of an independently functioning extremist organisation - as opposed to state sponsored extremists.<br /><br />Many other videos and reports reveal an open Turkish border and facilitation by Turkish authorities of arms and personnel into the war. There is a video (German TV) of jihadists assembling in a house in southern Turkey before crossing into Turkey, and reports of trucks full of arms being stopped by Turkish border guards and then let through under orders from higher up. <br /><br />The economic news site Zero Hedge recently reported that ISIS oil was being transported through Turkey and sold in Eastern Europe.<br /><br />Rather than flood the comment section with links it's better just to consider the content (incomplete though it is) in that one link above. Many people may not even bother to check it out, but it's a good starting point for those wanting to understand what is happening. <br /><br />IMHO, as a geopolitical blogger, none of the present events occurring in Iraq or Syria are a mystery. They are tied to the ongoing regime change program directed at Syria and the ouster of the Iran-friendly Maliki Government. This is why months ago you could guess that no real action would be taken to bomb those lines of Toyota pick up trucks crossing the desert in Iraq. This is why nothing significant is being done now and why we have a 'reaction' to this crisis that involves further arming of the FSA rebels, who cooperate with ISIS and Al Nusra.<br /><br />As a citizen whose Government 'representatives' commonly send forces into conflict zones I cannot help but be interested in the reasons why this is being done so that, if given the chance, I can voice my opposition if the mission looks to be a foolish one or a scam. <br /><br />Eric Palmer has labelled the Afghanistan mission Useless Dirt presumably because the task was to rout out Al Qaeda, not spend time occupying the country to destroy the Taliban who were not interested in overseas engagements. <br /><br />So is Turkey helping ISIS fighters and other extremists? Is Saudi Arabia doing the same? Does the US Government know about this and support them because of the regime change agenda push - all the while stalling on real action and selling what is an ineffective theatre show military operation to the public as if it were being serious. The evidence based answer seems to be yes. <br /> <br />Final thoughts: Covert operations do occur. Things are almost never black and white. Those that remember Iran Contra will know that backdoor channels exists, and that deals can and are made, often via proxies, with our enemies in order to serve questionable strategic objectives. <br /> SpookyOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04247845234734644470noreply@blogger.com