Monday, July 30, 2012

Now they want to ban online sale of ammo.

I coat all my Ranger 147 grain bullets in black boy factor.

via The Hill.
Two Democratic lawmakers on Monday will announce new legislation to regulate the online and mail-order sale of ammunition.
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (N.J.) and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (N.Y.) said the new law would make the sale of ammunition “safer for law-abiding Americans who are sick and tired of the ease with which criminals can now anonymously stockpile for mass murder,” in a statement released Saturday.

The lawmakers cite the recent movie massacre in Aurora, Colo. for spurring their bill. “The shooter who killed 12 and injured 58 in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater this month had purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition anonymously on the Internet shortly before going on his killing spree, according to law enforcement officials,” the statement reads. “The shooter used a civilian version of the military’s M-16 rifle with a 100-round drum magazine, a shotgun and two .40-caliber semi-automatic handguns commonly used by police officers.”
Read the whole thing but a few points.

1.  The last assault weapons ban spurned the development of pocket pistols.  The Glock 26 was basically born because handguns were limited to 10 round magazines and Glock responded to the new law by developing a mini Glock 19 that would hold the full compliment of allowable ammo.
2.  Everyone in my circle already has an ample supply of both ammo and magazines.  IF this became law, all we would do is buy more so that we could later sell them at a substantial mark up.  It happened last time and it'll happen again.  I have 20 Glock 19 mags and an equal number of Glock 17's.  That doesn't count the Korean knock offs.  Suffice it to say that among a large part of the population this will have no impact.
3. Have you noticed that the "ban" advocates have no off switch.  They believe in certain rights but at the expense of others.  If you want to marry someone of the same sex then that's awesome.  If you want to exercise a right designated by the constitution then not so much.  Heck, the Mayor of New York has some the harshest gun laws in the US so what's he going after now?  Sodas!  These people have no off switch.

But on a sidenote, I notice that the Democrats are pushing another side issue to take attention away from the 600 pound gorilla in the room...the economy.  If they can get the headlines to reflect any issue but the economy then they're winning.

This doesn't stand a chance of passing but it will grab headlines...and in the end...thats all the Democrats want.


  1. Anonymously buy ammo online? Gee, they always want my credit card info.
    BTW: Lautenberg is in his late 80's and will happily die of old age before this ever becomes law.

  2. Everyone seems to have missed that, once again, a proposed ban in response to a tragedy would not have stopped said tragedy.

    Sure, he bought 6000 rounds, but how much did he fire of each caliber? This scumbag obviously planned this and any ban/regulation would only have caused him to shop locally for his ammo or used prepaid credit cards to shop online using multiple IDs.

    So what does the proposed law propose? Are they going to setup a national registry for online/mail order ammo sales? What about international ammo sales? To be of any use they will also have to track local ammo sales also since $20 in gas will get me to 40+ gunshops, Walmarts, hardware stores, etc where I could get 6000 rounds in a day without buying more than 3 boxes of ammo per caliber per store.

    What about gun shows? One trip there and I could keep going in and back to my car and load up on 6000 rounds in an hour or so.

    1. that's the problem its way too easy to get the shit

      look at it this way in Aurora A gunman killed 12 people and injured 58 others. and that nothing compared to the many people that die everyday form people w/ guns

      the laws we got now are only helping the CEOs of gun company make more fucking money while we die in the streets

      BTW I love my guns

    2. So we should just chuck the Constitution whenever you feel it does not serve your needs?

    3. The problem wasn't the perp's easy access to weaponry and ammo. The problem is the restrictions on the law abiding majority in bearing theirs. If he had tried that s*** in Texas, he would have been lit up by laser sights before his first magazine was half empty. BTW, I love my family and my freedoms. My weapons are just tools that help me protect both.

  3. Since when has reality ever stopped the Democrat party from assaulting our constitutional rights? After all, "never let a crisis go to waste".

  4. peter pete.

    Yep..that's the problem..too easy to get the shit. We should make it drugs..then they'd never be able to easily get it.(Oh wait, I can buy crack easier than I can a gun). If you think about it maybe it comes down to the fact there are just evil crazy people in this world(just like there always has been and always will be) that will stop at nothing to kill people. Fact is this nutbag could have done even more damage by chaining the doors shut and lobbing in a couple of Molotov cocktails. It's not the's the nutbag who uses it that's the issue.

  5. There will never be an off switch.

    The average beltway liberal thinks the 2nd amendment is outmoded and only applies to a militia. They think no civilian should have anything but a hunting rifle. They believe pistols should be limited to a certain amount of bullets, pistol purchases should be limited, databases on ownership kept...

    So far it's been easy going ever since Al Gore, but all it takes is the right crisis, at the right time, with the right President (or politician), and you could see these types of initiatives (as well as the assault weapons ban) come to fruition.

  6. In Norway you cant buy assault rifles like in the U.S...but it still happened...criminals and insane people will always find a way to harm or rob normal citizens.Portugal as become a paradise for violent crime and you cant buy anything above 6,35mm for self defense...but the criminals have bigger weapons than the police.A citizen should have the right to bear arms in any free country...

  7. I like the idea of Reasonable Gun Control....about as much as I like Reasonable Free Speech Control, Practical Regulations for the Right to Free Assembly, Common Sense Religious oversight and a limited access to legal counsel and speedy trials.

    At the end of the day, gun control is not about guns, it's about control: the imaginary self-delusion that if we can control the things which we fear, we can somehow make life better or easier.

    But everything about nature, from entropy to chaos theory, tells us that mastery over matter or people is like holding onto a handful of smoke.


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