Friday, December 31, 2010

The EU, Communist China and US based technology.


From Alert 5 via France24.com...
The lifting of the embargo on all lethal weapons "could happen very quickly," a source close to EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton told the paper.
It said that the embargo was considered a slap in the face for the world's second largest economic bloc as well as militarily ineffective by the EU as China increasingly builds its own weapons.
A confidential report presented to the last European Union summit that ended on December 17 described the embargo as "a major obstacle" to Europe-China security and foreign policy cooperation.
As a result "the EU should draw the practical conclusions and go ahead," the report said.
Read the whole thing but I wonder...Is this just a gateway to US tech?  With EU countries building parts of the F-35...with AirBus potentially building the next generation Air Force Tanker...with major US defense corporations having entities in Europe...

Does this mean that we (through the EU) will be selling a hostile power the very weapons that they will one day use against our own forces?


22 comments :

  1. We already are with Mistral it seems. Next some sort of joint missile defense.

    We should trade NATO in for ASEAN+India.

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  2. Want to tight off security compromises?

    Look no further than your own backyard.....

    Americans have been quite self-righteous when it comes to playing its role in the world stage.

    Asia-Pacific are the geopolitical center of this century. EU-Asia/BRIC trade will continue to accelerate, while the US gets displaced in world stage.

    Like the former Soviet, the US will get hurt and even toppled by its own ideology-filled politics. "Communist China" - Who on Earth uses such a term outside the US anymore? What a disconnect from reality.

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  3. what an ignorant bastard you are!

    the Chinese people are living under a Communist regime. I use the term because it makes left wing idiots like you uncomfortable.

    For the EU to sell weapons to China is stupidity on steroids! What if the US sold weapons to the Soviet Union during the height of the cold war?

    But you bastards (really only some of the people in Europe) don't give a fuck about anything but yourselves and would rather see Asia burn while you grab a few pennies.

    I wish to GOD we could pull all of our troops out of Europe and leave you self righteous morons to your own devices.

    I've been all over Europe, marveled at the laziness, the self righteousness, the nanny state and the average persons dependence on the government and its no wonder we have so much Euro Trash polluting our city streets.

    It doesn't apply to everyone over there but I can say with pride that I've probably punched a few of your countrymen while on leave and then fucked their girlfriends...maybe your wife now.

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  4. "Chinese and Indian Entrepreneurs Are Eating America's Lunch"

    Make no mistake about it, the US is rotting from within and being out-competed by emerging capitalistic states from without.

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/12/28/chinese_and_indian_entrepreneurs_are_eating_americas_lunch

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  5. no,

    their people are being used for slave labor and when it gets to be too expensive the capitalist will move to cheaper countries.

    are you really that naive?

    its all about cheap labor...nothing else.

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  6. What a classic ignorant American: big genitalia, little brain.

    Believe what you wish to, Sol; don't forget your pacifier, the F-35.

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  7. don't forget your pacifier...an American dick between your lips.

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  8. oh and from your last response its easy to see that you're either APA attempting to harass me on my own website or else a member of their "Horde"!

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  9. I might add, that they are already moving from China to Bangladesh.

    What troubles me on the civilian side, is that we have shortsighted companies here in the US (and especially German)trading technological know how for short term gains in Chinese markets. For example, GM (the President's pet project)is in such a deal and looking to expand it further while China is putting itself in place to compete with them.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203731004576045684068308042.html?KEYWORDS=china+us+partnership

    It's stuff like that, that has helped put us in the spot we are now- money above country.

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  10. All the more reason not to give the UK everything on a silver platter or export the F-22. Inevitably, it'll end up in China. One wonders how long it will take before there's fiber optic from the BAE servers straight to Bejing.

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  11. Oh yes because it's always the British giving away American tech. We are secretly your arch-enemy (we never got over you wasting all that tea). Idiot.

    Sol, I'd quite like to hear about these incidents that have given you such a view of Europeans that mean you make such generalisations about all 500 million of us.

    Makes me wonder why exactly i'm training to fight for my nation alongside your country. (I know we are a terror target too, but we have been for a lot longer than the US, and before 9/11 Americans were partially funding it).

    Maybe next time rather than tarring us all with the same brush you actually stop and think that we aren't all the same over here and some of us may actually agree with you on occasion.

    Oh and I won't hide behind an Anonymous name either.

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  12. Solomon, I'm really glad that someone called out this move to lift the embargo and what it really means to the balance of military power in the pacific. Also, thanks for including Catherine Ashton's name instead of letting be known as some nameless government officials statement. "Baroness" Ashton, despite being a high level EU official, has a shady history and has in fact never been elected to office by the public.

    Shady history here:
    http://www.economist.com/node/14959990?story_id=14959990

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  13. NATO is irrevocably broken. Has been since WoT, maybe longer, I don't know...

    Elections in Europe are often decided on the level of anti-American rhetoric and back stabbing. We have to listen to generalizations and insults about fat/selfish/entitled Americans while we American taxpayers work 40/50/60+ hours a week with part of our paychecks going to defend unsustainable Euro-socialism.

    And if that's not bad enough, we're told we should be more like Europe! Who in the hell pays the defense bill should that ever happen?!?

    I too think we should pull our troops and our bases and end NATO. Let the Europeans re-acquaint themselves with the values that made them great or let Europe fall.

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  14. Grim
    i never said it applied to all Europeans but you have to admit that there is a sizable anti American tilt to many of your people.

    many of your people make sweeping judgments about the US and never are corrected on it.

    i am a fan of many of the military organizations in Europe. i applaud the work that they are doing but too many Europeans seem to think that the US is the axis of evil in the world.

    how can calling China a communist nation be up for debate? but somehow it was for one of my readers!

    Resident Author and Annonymous
    I totally agree. There is a party member in the UK that is fighting the beast that is the EU tooth and nail. He's a hero. Shady bureaucrats in the EU seem the rule and not the exception. NATO is beyond useless and is only another bureaucracy with no use but is a drain on resources.

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  15. Same to you Drake1! Take care, stay safe and keep your powder dry!

    Everyone ---

    Happy New Year!

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  16. Solomon,
    I have only recently found this site and thought up until now how good it was.
    To read the response you gave to anonymous however has made me change my mind completely.
    I have read some foul mouthed and rabid comments from commentators on various blogs,but to read it from the author of the article is completely uncalled for.
    It seemed that anonymous touched off your safety valve in regards your opinion of Europeans and you let your true feelings for us be aired with a vengeance.
    I'm sure you could have put your case just as forcefully without reverting to the gutter language that you used,it does yourself and this site no favours at all.

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  17. Solomon,
    May I suggest it is you that are an ignorant bastard.
    In the first place it is France that is selling Mistral to Russia,it has nothing to do with the EU.
    Your remark in regards to the US selling arms to the USSR during the cold war has no bearing on this matter whatsoever and perhaps if you looked at the trade that the US carries on with China you would see how ridiculous your statement is.
    Your country is willing to sell arms on the one hand to Israel (due to the large zionist lobby in your country), whilst also carrying out one of the largest arms deals in history with its Muslim enemys. Never minding the fact that Saudi is a breeding ground for AQ against whom your countrys forces are fighting and dying for in Afghanistan (alongside my countrys troops who you label as bastards and idle trash)
    My country went against almost the rest of Europe and stood by you when we went into Iraq and Afghanistan and for you to turn and vent your spleen like you did is unforgivable.
    I just hope that the many hundreds of UK troops who have died and the many more who have lost limbs and suffered other horrific injuries see how much their sacrifice is appreciated by the US.

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  18. ah Michael2...did someone wee wee in your cereal?

    kiss my ass, fuck you and i hope that some Goon slits your throat and dumps your body in a back alley. other than that have a happy new year.

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  19. Solomon,
    What a pathetic little creature you are,a foul mouthed pervert who having no considered opinion reverts to childish obscenities.
    Whilst I can understand your lack of knowledge about europe and put it down to a poor education,I can only surmise that your lack of any sort of social skills and the inability to use the english language correctly shows that your rightfull place is in the gutter.
    I would suggest that you change your name as Solomon was noted for his wisdom,something which you are sadly lacking.
    Have a nice day in your cesspit of a life.

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  20. hey Michael2.

    what i said earlier goes. i imagine you're one of those sorry men walking around that considers himself highly cultured and supremely educated.

    but men like you depend on men like me to protect you. whether its your local police or your military, you have given up your manhood in pursuit of 'sophistication' and 'culture'.

    i look down on creatures like you because when trouble comes you don't reach inside yourself and try and solve the problem...you look to others. when danger comes you reach for a phone...not a tool to defend yourself.

    you call yourself a man? you're anything but! you're a sorry excuse for a human being and you are a dainty little rose that will wilt under the first sign of pressure.

    you're a punk, a pussy, a walking talking piece of shit.

    die you son of a bitch. just do us all a favor and die.

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  21. Solomon,
    I don't have to be supremely educated to be more intelligent than an inbred cretin like yourself do I.
    Neither do I have to depend on men? like you to protect me as I served in my countrys military for 25yrs,far more than I suspect you ever did.
    Unlike you though I do not have to go shouting about it to make myself feel important.
    It really is a shame that you cannot express yourself without resorting once again to the abuse which is obviously part of your nature,it seems to be a sign of your total insecurity that invective is all you have to offer.
    You do have all my sympathy,living a life as a complete loser cannot be a happy experience for you although most idiots like yourself don't realise what morons they are.
    Keep drinking your Bud with your redneck trailer trash friends as that seems to be the limits of any social skills you have.
    Leave the thinking to others who are better equipped for it.
    Bye for now small person.

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