Wednesday, June 06, 2012

F-35 News. 06.06.12

A little F-35 news to set the proper tone for the week for all those deluded fools that actually think this airplane isn't every bit the gamechanger I claim...

First from the Why the F-35 Blog....
The veteran F-16 operational tester and Weapons School grad shared some of his impressions the F-35. The jet is powerful, stable and easy to fly.
"One of the things this aircraft usually takes hit on is the handling because it's not an F-22," Kloos says. "An F-22 is unique in its ability to maneuver and we'll never be that."
But compared to other aircraft, a combat-configured F-35 probably edges out other existing designs carrying a similar load-out. "When I'm downrange in Badguyland that's the configuration I need to have confidence in maneuvering, and that's where I think the F-35 starts to edge out an aircraft like the F-16," Kloos says.
A combat-configured F-16 is encumbered with weapons, external fuel tanks, and electronic countermeasures pods that sap the jet's performance. "You put all that on, I'll take the F-35 as far as handling characteristic and performance, that's not to mention the tactical capabilities and advancements in stealth," he says. "It's of course way beyond what the F-16 has currently."
The F-35's acceleration is "very comparable" to a Block 50 F-16. "Again, if you cleaned off an F-16 and wanted to turn and maintain Gs and [turn] rates, then I think a clean F-16 would certainly outperform a loaded F-35," Kloos says. "But if you compared them at combat loadings, the F-35 I think would probably outperform it."
Read the whole thing but that puts a fork into the heart of the Bill Sweetmans and Carlos Kopps that claim that the F-35 can't compete with 4th gen fighters. 
 
From US News DotMil Blog...
 So when the F-22 oxygen system flaws led Panetta to step in, there were whispers in defense circles that the F-35 might be prone to spawning the same pilot wooziness.
Lockheed Martin responded to DOTMIL after multiple requests for comment, sounding a confident tone.
"They are different systems," Lockheed spokesman Michael Rein says. "The F-35 and F-22 have common aircraft oxygen system suppliers but the systems are very different...The two systems each utilize a similar approach and architecture, but they are packaged and implemented differently.
"The F-35 program continuously monitors issues present in other aircraft assessing applicability to our current design," Rein says. "The program has leveraged the lessons learned from F-22 development to enhance the F-35 across all subsystems, including the Onboard Oxygen Generating System."
Another punch in the gut to the critics.  Different system so NO.  The F-35 will not be affected by whatever is wrong with the F-22.

Next we have Element of Power Blog... 
The Concurrency Bogeyman is not going to disappear until people who use it get called out for their lies, so 'good on' Bucci and the Heritage foundation!
Awww. The Usual F-35 Hatin' Suspects seem to have shown up at the Heritage site with their usual quiver full of lies, half-truths, and distortions. How quaint. They range from ignorant to stupid-but they're quaint. Around here people say 'Bless their hearts' when we see that kind of lunacy.
Three different blogs...all come to the same conclusion.  And if all that isn't enough, the testing program is rolling full speed ahead...


NAVAL AIR SYSTEMS COMMAND, PATUXENT RIVER, Md. – Cmdr. Eric Buus brings F-35C Joint Strike Fighter test aircraft CF-3 in for a landing at Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Md., May 29. The flight was the 300th flight for the F-35’s carrier variants and evaluated improvements in flight control laws for carrier approaches. The F-35C carrier variant of the Joint Strike Fighter is distinct from the F-35A and F-35B variants with its larger wing surfaces and reinforced landing gear to withstand catapult launches and deck landing impacts associated with the demanding aircraft carrier environment. The F-35C is undergoing test and evaluation at NAS Patuxent River prior to delivery to the fleet.

5 comments :

  1. Where'd you get that picture of the F-35C landing? I was hoping to get hold of the full res version. (Looks like new wallpaper material. :-) )

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  2. You missed a piece of news from 6/5/12.

    Apparently the Senate is concerned with high scrap and rework rates and a "potentially serious" problem with an aperture for the electronic warfare system. Not the aircraft's fault, but not good news considering the cost overruns that have already occured.


    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/135761/sasc-queries-f_35-build-quality%2C-reveals-new-problem-with-ew.html

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    1. Let's pull this thread all the way to the end. Remember: you tugged it first.
      You referenced a blurb on a Euro-propagandist website...
      That excerpted an 'article' written by a part-time Reuters stringer...
      Who is also a defender of Islamism and Islamists...
      and free accuser of those who do not agree with her position as Islmamophobes...
      And who is also a full-time aging Kumbah-frickin-ya-chanting Peacenik hippie-chick who OBTW 'likes' POGO among other things on Facebook, and...
      Has written publicity puff pieces for ARAMCO and other Arab interests who now writes....
      An article that uses a mish-mash of unrelated factoids as backdrop for the SASC Left-tard and 'Me-a-Maverick' -cough-'leadership'-cough pretending to be concerned over JSF 'quality' based upon perceptions of non-falling 'scrap rates'...
      An article where no one asks the Dear Leaders of the SASC just how much 'scrap rates', which tend to fall as learning curves progress, MIGHT be related to suppression of production rates AND associated learning curves...
      By those who would subvert the entire program for any number of reasons having nothing positive to do with the Nation's defense.
      PS: And no, I did not just have to look this stuff up. Do a Google on "Shalal-Esa" and you can see she's been pumping out POGO talking points almost as fast as POGO can put them up for quite some time, and her defense of Islamists as just regular folks has been going on since at least 9/12/2001.

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    2. Well, the string you pulled just pulls off the mask that F-35 lovers can be objective about any problem that may affect the program. As I stated, this is not the fault of the F-35, this is a manufacturing issue. However, it is amplified by past program performance. Whether you are a lover or a hater, you should be concerned about temporary workers running the assembly line. I would never presume to try to "out expert" someone with past military experience on the minutia of infantry tactics. So I can tell you, as someone who has personally worked extensively in large manufacturing, quality suffers under these manufacturing conditions. Whether union or non-union, you lose the experience a trained worker brings. Scrap rates are almost assured to go up during training while productivity goes down. You have temps for whom one mistake means no more job, so they are hesitant to bring issues forward. These are real issues - even if you refuse to acknowledge them. Burying you head in the sand just makes you stick your ass up in the air.

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    3. The whining is over scrap rates that pre-dates the ongoing strike at LM. I was gettting regular updates from my next door neighbor (a line worker) before the strike, and what has been generating chaos annually the last couple of years was (and will be when he goes back) the repeated moving around of people to fill holes created by laying off people because the production ramp up they were hired back for didn't materialize AGAIN this year. Nobody did Labor any favors in cutting production ramp up. Not only doe it mean fewer represented labor has work, the lack of urgency allows LM to chug along at the reduced rate longer without too much undue effect. Labor didn't do themselves any favor by filing charges against LM with the NLRB for the merely courtesy-copying the rank and file on correspondence to labor leadership. That prank gave LM incentive to wait out the NRLBs ruling before talking to the Union.
      And the word I'm getting from another saleried guy who got pulled to work the line is that he thinks QA is actually going overboard and being too conservative in fear of screwing up. LMs already stated they're not pulling people in faster because they have to train them up first.
      There will be a mess that the regular line workers will have to fix when they get back, and the longer this draws out the bigger the mess will be. But I think the point it becomes a LM delivered DD250'd product QA issue is long past the time labor will be able to hold out. As I see it, the Local is running the risk of being disbanded if enough people have to cross the line due to financial need. Glad I don't have a thing to do with it.

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