Saturday, September 08, 2012

Thank God the Brits are so into music and soccer.


Thank God the Brits are focusing on their brand of music and soccer.  If they paid attention to what was going on in Afghanistan we'd be facing a serious diplomatic incident and we'd probably have to fight to keep a couple of our pilots from being charged in their courts.

Don't get me wrong.  I realize that mistakes happen but check out a few passages from the BBC and their reporting on the Coroners Inquest...
The Apaches were eventually called off and waited in the area while other helicopters were summoned to evacuate casualties.
The pilot of Luger 61 said in his statement how he noted the men on the ground were wearing vests and what appeared to be body armour.
L/Cpl Roney, from Sunderland could not survive his injuries and died the next day.
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Earlier, the inquest heard how British officer Capt Christopher Dadd shouted "stop, stop, stop" when he realised the helicopters were mistakenly attacking the base.
Capt Dadd was in the operations room when he realised what was happening, the inquest was told.
Warrant Officer John Pepper said operations room staff realised the error and tried to halt the attack.
He was in the operations room on the ground some distance away from the base handling information coming in from members of the battlegroup.
WO Pepper said he was watching on a screen as the helicopters made one of three strafing runs when his superior, Capt Dadd, became aware of what was happening.
Carried on firingWO Pepper told the inquest: "Capt Dadd shouted 'Stop, stop, stop'. That was when everyone realised in the ops room they were attacking Patrol Base Almas.
"He had his head in his hands."
L/Cpl Johnny Cassell told the hearing the leader of the platoon at the patrol base, Capt Palmer Winstanley, appeared to be weeping when he contacted the Ops room to tell them to call off the helicopters.
Cpl Ben Hall, one of the troops who came under fire from the US crew, said his men carried on firing on the enemy, despite the onslaught from above.
Once the Apaches were called off an air strike was called in on the enemy position and a 500lb bomb brought a halt to the Taliban attack
Yeah.

The pilot noted how the men on the ground were wearing vest and what appeared to be body armor.

Yeah.

The battle appears to have been raging from compound to compound (meaning that the Brits were in one compound and the Taliban in another).

Yeah.

This sounds like fangs were out and they wanted blood.  I would love to hear the conversation between the FAC and the pilots.

Yeah.

I'm absolutely positive that Captain Dadd will never get another unmedicated full nights sleep.

Yeah.

I'm glad the British people aren't paying attention.

3 comments :

  1. It makes you sick. All sorts of stupid going on that day. WTF were those pilots thinking?

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  2. Sol, its not that people aren't paying attention but I think many understand that it is a hazardous environment and very sadly, mistakes will be made.

    I honestly don't know enough about this incident to comment sensibly

    Have a look at this link

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._friendly-fire_incidents_since_1945_with_British_victims

    Very sad

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  3. We are paying attention.

    General feeling is "yet another effing blue-on-blue from the Yanks", combined with some of our press asking questions of our own Senior Officers who were present [1]:

    TD hit the nail on the head, the public have an inclination, if not a full understanding, that a) this is hazardous work; b) British training is different and so British troops may engage using tactics unusual to American pilots and c) this is not deliberate (why would it be deliberate?).

    There's some wrecked lives here on both sides (US pilots must need support too?). Just need to do everything we can together to avoid it in future.

    One final footnote from the same BBC article:

    "Cpl Ben Hall, one of the troops who came under fire from the US crew, said his men carried on firing on the enemy, despite the onslaught from above."

    [1] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2199706/British-soldier-killed-US-Apache-helicopter-friendly-Afghanistan-died-result-mistaken-beliefs-cumulative-failures.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

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