Tuesday, October 09, 2012

The USMC wants a jungle school. Another chance for the Army.

One of my mentors in the Marine Corps was this crusty ole' Vietnam era war dog who had been there and done that.  He was always a Marine first and foremost but he had been to every school under the son.  When he slowed down he went to an Infantry unit!  Scuba bubble?  Had it.  Gold jump wings?  Yep.  Ranger School?  Did that too.  HALO?  Uhmmm hum.  He even did the Army's Jungle Warfare School in Panama.  When I met him he was on his way out the door but he always took time to share bits of wisdom with the new guys coming aboard.  He was the truth...the real deal.  But lets talk Panama Jungle School.

Supposedly Panama Jungle School is so tough that it makes the course run in Okinawa look like a cake walk (I seriously doubt that but I'm just guessing...besides how bad can monkey meat actually be?)

But more importantly, when the Army ran the school, Google indicates that it ran almost everyone of its Light Fighter and Airborne/Air Assault units through it in addition to Special Operations Forces.  The Marine Corps is showing an interest in a formalized Jungle School instead of a course.  This present the US Army with another opportunity.  Check this out from DefenseNews....

Q. The commandant recently discussed an overhaul of jungle warfare training. What is being considered?

A. We’ve kind of been thinking about this for a while. There’s the training center on Okinawa, Japan. But it’s not anything like what the Mountain Warfare Training Center is for mountain training or cold-weather training because it’s not a service school right now.
The commandant wants us to look at a service-level jungle warfare training center on the model of the Mountain Warfare Training Center up at Pickel Meadows in California. So who is it that we’ll put through this training? Is it forces that are going out to Asia-Pacific? Or could it be anyone?
[At] the Mountain Warfare Training Center we train in mountain climbing, we train in cold weather, but it’s not all that school’s about. It’s about small-unit leader training. In the future, it will be a venue where people will work in those ITXs, so they might be at [different training locations]. So it’s really more than just mountain and cold weather. And as we develop the jungle warfare training center, it’ll be the same thing.
We are also looking at costs because if we were going to take forces from the U.S. that aren’t on their way to deploy to the Pacific, it would cost a heck of a lot to get a unit over there to go through jungle warfare training and then come back.
So is there somewhere here in the western hemisphere where we can do it as well? Do we want one, do we want the other? But we are going to — within a reasonable amount of time — develop a service-level jungle warfare training center if that’s what the commandant decides.


The opportunity for the Army is simple.

It can be fully on board with the turn to the Pacific by running a joint service Jungle School instead of seeing all the services develop individual schools.  The difficulty will in the Army's current structure.  Its a mechanized force and for the Jungle School concept to work for the Army then they'll have to get back to its light infantry roots.

I'm not a fan of purple so it would help if the Army ran and maintained the school and the other services simply had detachments to take care of their service member when they came through.

An Army School, with Army instructors, teaching service member from all the services.

That would be a pretty good way for the US Army to get feet wet and relevant when it comes to the Pacific.

NOTE:  If the Army won't step up and the Commandant wants a good Jungle Warfare School to fall in on then I would recommend teaming up with the French like we have in North Africa, but this time in S. America.  French Guiana reportedly has a tough, effective jungle school that French Marines rotate through.  Anything further South would probably become a cost issue...so that makes Brazil a no-go.

4 comments :

  1. Didn't the British recently close their jungle training school in Belize? Why not talk to Belize about that area if we need a new base or somewhere else in Central or South America? We need to engage more within our own backyard.

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  2. as far as i know the Brits use a base in south east asia for jungle training. it would be nice for something in our back yard but that's why i suggested we fall in on the French base in Guiana. its already operating, we have good relations with the French Marines and its a natural in my opinion. Belize would be awesome too but i don't know enough about the local conditions to make a proper assessment.

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  3. I was an instructor at NTA (now it's Camp Gonsalves JWTC or something) and it was NOT a full blown "jungle school". We taught some basics about jungle enviroments, worked on patrolling and did things like rapelling and water crossing techniques. Strange as this may sound, it was fun. Infantry units were there for 11 days, non-infantry (pogue) units got a 5-7 day package. And anybody who was there remembers the endurance course on the last. IIRC, the best time was under 40 minutes. Done by an all instructor team of course.....

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  4. that's always been a point of confusion for me. the mountain warfare package is considered a school but the jungle package isn't???? either way i know the course is a pure dee bitch! you got balls the size of boulders to be an instructor there. the spiders and other creepy crawlies kept me up at night...the adventure stuff was fun. rapelling down waterfalls and shit like that. sleeping in the jungle was huge donkey dick stuff though!

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