Thursday, November 29, 2012

The Marine Corps within the Marine Corps expands.

The Marine Corps is something I no longer understand.  Check this out.

MARINE CORPS BASE CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. - U.S. Marine Corps Forces, Special Operations Command recently stood up two new battalions as part of a reorganization effort designed to accommodate its influx of combat support and combat service support personnel.
The Marine Special Operations Logistics Battalion (MSOLB) and the Marine Special Operations Combat Support Battalion (MSOCSB) will house the nearly 800 Marines scheduled to join MARSOC’s support component by 2016. The new Marines will provide support in intelligence, engineering, explosive ordnance disposal and other capacities to MARSOC’s special operations teams, which often operate in forbidding and remote locations with little reach back to conventional support assets.  NOTE:  EXCEPT FOR MARINE AIR THEY'RE ORGANIZING A NEW MARINE EXPEDITIONARY BRIGADE UNDER THE BANNER OF SOCOM.
Now the need for critical support assets from conventional forces will be even less, as the new logistics battalion will fulfill roles in engineering, embarking and logistics, with Marines trained specifically to support MARSOC’s special operations missions.
“The support we’re going to be able to deliver to our deployed (Special Operations Task Forces) and companies is going to increase their survivability and their ability to conduct operations globally,” said Col. Jeffrey Fultz, commanding officer of the Marine Special Operations Support Group, which oversees the new battalions.
Fultz went on to say that MSOLB is one of the Marine Corps’s most unique logistics battalions, due to its Individual Training Program (ITP).
“For the first time in combat service support in the Marine Corps, the Marines (in MSOLB) will have an ITP,” said Lt. Col. Stephanie L. Walker, commanding officer of the new logistics battalion. “If you’ve ever been in any other unit with combat service support, you’re either deployed or you’re home doing your pre-deployment training. But you never get time to individually train. That’s what MSOLB offers these Marines; some time to hone their skills prior to going out in support of MARSOC.”
Each support Marine at MARSOC is required to complete a comprehensive checklist of individual training requirements, including the Special Operations Training Course (STC), and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) training. Added to a combination of unit training requirements and a short dwell time between deployments, MSOLB’s new ITP is a welcome change, said Walker.
The activation of MSOCSB also brings new advances to the command, particularly in the intelligence realm. A revision of MARSOC’s former intelligence battalion, now equipped with a communications company and a headquarters company, MSOCSB is capable of bringing every intelligence asset to the battlefield, providing another platform upon which MARSOC can operate independently.
“Combat support battalion’s Marines are not only able to find and fix, they’re also able to finish,” said Fultz. “With the addition of headquarters company, which includes Multi-Purpose Canines and Joint Terminal Attack Controllers, and communications company, they’re adding a whole new piece to their kit bag, and their ability to support MARSOC worldwide.”
Fultz went on to say that MARSOC has long prided itself on its ability to task organize a fully enabled and integrated SOF capability, largely through the fusion of operations and intelligence. Combat support battalion, with its additional assets, will enhance this capability.
Growth is steady, but slow. The Corps’s gradual downsizing of 20,000 Marines is shrinking the pool that MARSOC can draw from. However, according to Fultz, that won’t be a problem. MARSOC will continue to do more with less, as all Marines do.  NOTE: THIS IS UTTER BULLSHIT.  THEY'RE NOT DOING MORE WITH LESS AT MARSOC!  WHEN UNITS DEPLOY SHORT OF CANNINE OR EOD OR ANY OTHER CAPABILITY YOU CAN BET THAT IT'LL BE A CONVENTIONAL NOT MARSOC UNIT.  CONVENTIONALS ARE BEING FUCKED FOR MARSOC!
“We’re going to continue to ask a lot of you,” said Fultz, addressing a formation of MSOSG Marines. “We’re going to continue to push you. But I know you’ll continue to accomplish the mission."
All the SOCOM cheerleaders and fan boys will cheer this announcement.  All I can see is the beginning of the end for the Marine Corps.

UPDATE:  I just realized that the US Army Rangers, US Army Special Forces, US Navy SEALs and USAF Special Operations all provide more shooters (or at least the same number) with a smaller logistics tail.  The original goal of the US Army Rangers has been realized...They're out Marine-ing the Marine Corps.

NOTE:  It occurs to me that the arguments that the entire Marine Corps duplicates Army missions on land, Air Force & Navy air missions in flight and essentially performs a role that can be accomplished by a force more the size of the Royal Marines...THEN WHY KEEP THE USMC AROUND?  I mean seriously.  Consider this.  MARSOC is about the size of the Royal Marines now. I argue against it, but if one day it is decided that forcible entry from the sea is no longer needed OR can be performed by a much smaller organization---say one the size of MARSOC then how do we justify the Marine Corps?


7 comments :

  1. Right on, bro. Amphibious assault’s future is murky at best. Then why we even need a separate Marine Corps? For the corps to justify its very existence, I think some radical changes need to be considered. How about reshape MC into a dedicated SOF by absolving Green Beret, Rangers, and Delta Force from Army? (Let’s disregard history and tradition for the moment) The new MC should be modeled after the Royal Marine, small but highly effective ground unit optimized for low intensity/high risk missions: anti-terror, distributed warfare, etc.

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    1. don't get me wrong. IT PAINS ME TO SAY THIS! but quite honestly if any service is gonna die it would have to be the Marines. Special Ops get fed from the conventional forces. only the Army has the numbers required to make that happen. Additionally it would still need the ability to fall back on conventional forces for support. a full Special Ops Marine Corps wouldn't have the infrastructure. last but not least what does MARSOC bring to the fight that Rangers and SF doesn't. last in first out. MARSOC has the shortest history. if anything it would die.

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  2. Or, MARSOC becomes the MEU. MARSOC replaces many of the land missions the SEALS have engaged in and instead concentrate on UDT type ops. In the end the Marine Corps consists of faggy law enforcement battalions, FAST companies and MSOBs. I just threw this out - I have no idea what will happen. One thing is for sure - you have to generate a large enough pool of people to test and choose from if you plan on having a Spec Ops unit.

    The MEB (MPS ships) and it's role can be handled by the Stryker Brigades.

    gute

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  3. Hey Solomon - when does a Cub Scout become a Boy Scout?

    gute

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  4. It helps if I read the article all the way through before commenting - especially putting down things that were already brought up in the article or your comments. Sorry dude - I didn't add much.

    gute

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