everyone uses 22lr to take down guards and dogs. that's not what i was talking about. i was refering to the penetration at distance that this test illustrated and its expanded use in hunting beyond what we think about AND the use against people in a world without rule of law.
YES! you're on the same track i was in my thinking. we know 380's don't have any type of penetration potential but what about the pocket 22's with decent capacity...
It's also worth noting that this shooter took 5 shots to land a solid hit. That definitely would come into play when firing against someone who might be shooting back, or when trying to bring down game that might get spooked and run after the first miss cracks by.
i watched the vid and if it was a standard IPSC target he would have been hitting somewhere close to the black if not in it. from my view on a mansize target he would have hit each time.
.22lr yes. But the obvious direction is .22wmr is it not? Just that little more umph, my understanding being that at 100 yards the .22wmr has as much energy as the .22lr at the muzzle.
Now imagine .22wmr in a semi-auto rifle (they are out there but not many) with 25 round magazines and suppressor.
The question is how would say a 50 grain hollow point .22wmr work?
I read an article in some weapons blog about shooting a .22 lr out at 300 yards using a frozen chicken or turkey. A person does not want to be shot at this range by a .22 lr it may not drop a person but it will do enough damage to get that person's attention. It got the frozen chicken's attention!
That is why ruskis Use SV99 to take down guards and dogs
ReplyDeleteeveryone uses 22lr to take down guards and dogs. that's not what i was talking about. i was refering to the penetration at distance that this test illustrated and its expanded use in hunting beyond what we think about AND the use against people in a world without rule of law.
DeleteA "high-capacity" revolver so to speak, is nice for gramdma or grandpa. Certainly better than nothing.
ReplyDeleteYES! you're on the same track i was in my thinking. we know 380's don't have any type of penetration potential but what about the pocket 22's with decent capacity...
DeleteI'd be interested to see a 25yd comparison between the rifle this vid was using and a pocket pistol .22lr using the same ammo.
ReplyDeletethere will be a drop off in velocity but if you use some of the hotter rounds it still should be faster than a 9mm
DeleteIt's also worth noting that this shooter took 5 shots to land a solid hit. That definitely would come into play when firing against someone who might be shooting back, or when trying to bring down game that might get spooked and run after the first miss cracks by.
ReplyDeletei watched the vid and if it was a standard IPSC target he would have been hitting somewhere close to the black if not in it. from my view on a mansize target he would have hit each time.
Delete.22lr yes. But the obvious direction is .22wmr is it not? Just that little more umph, my understanding being that at 100 yards the .22wmr has as much energy as the .22lr at the muzzle.
ReplyDeleteNow imagine .22wmr in a semi-auto rifle (they are out there but not many) with 25 round magazines and suppressor.
The question is how would say a 50 grain hollow point .22wmr work?
not convinced that the 22wmr will work in a handgun or rifle semiautomatically at least. the KelTec PMR is a mess from what i hear.
DeleteThe new PMR's appear to work. They did some redesign. But I wouldn't want one for social work.
DeleteCZ build the 512 in .22wmr. If the .22lr generates enough pressure to work a semi-auto rifle then there should be no problem with .22wmr.
Honestly I think it is the future. :)
I read an article in some weapons blog about shooting a .22 lr out at 300 yards using a frozen chicken or turkey.
ReplyDeleteA person does not want to be shot at this range by a .22 lr it may not drop a person but it will do enough damage to get that person's attention.
It got the frozen chicken's attention!