Wednesday, June 12, 2013

Helo Ambush. How to kill an air centric MEU during humanitarian relief ops.



Thanks to Paralus for ideas on this topic.

The Marine Corps is moving toward an air centric MEU.

It has me pulling my hair out, punching walls and yelling in the woods.

It makes no sense and recent combat has demonstrated the stupidity of such a move.  But since leadership is intent on following through with this, let run through a scenario of how you can ambush the MV-22 and basically destroy an MEUs Ground Combat Element that has been forced into being an airmobile, seagoing version of the 101st airborne.

Humanitarian Relief Scenario.

*The location is the Philippines.
*Blue force is an MEU providing disaster relief.
*Red force is anti government rebels.

The 15th MEU is tasked with providing disaster relief to the Philippines after they suffered a devastating earthquake.  Manilla is severly damaged and in addition to US forces, the Japanese, Chinese and Australia have also pledged support.

The 15th is forward deployed and will arrive some two weeks before other relief works get to the scene.  This is tasked as a disaster relief mission so the port that is still operational will be used to speed supplies to those affected.

Anti Government rebels are seeking to increase publicity for there cause and to take advantage of the situation to gain concessions from the government.

A large deck amphib sitting dockside at the former Subic Bay is too tempting a  target to pass up.  Normal government patrols are absent as all available Philippine personnel are already turning to on relief operations.

This is too good to be true and the rebel commander orders rocket attacks on the ship.  He's also smart and waits till MV-22s are returning from relief missions to launch his attack.

He's studied the MV-22.  From watching videos on the internet he knows the planes vulnerability.

Yes.  It flies high and fast.  Yes.  At speed it can effectively get away from any attack that isn't well planned.  But IT DOES have a vulnerability.  The commander has watched hundreds of videos and he notices that even in an assault, the plane is less maneuverable than ordinary helicopters.

If you catch it while taking off and landing then you can strike at its achilles heel.

And thats just what the commander does when he order the rocket attack on the big deck LHD.

The ship has 16 MV-22s.  They have been running missions with four airplanes on a continuous basis.  With those they also launch a AH-1Z or a UH-1Y to escort...but after watching them for a couple of days the escort seems to be off on other tasks.

The rebel commander has it well planned.  He has 20 teams out with 4 men in each.  They're armed with RPG-29s that can punch through a tank.  He's interested to see how they'll do against the hull of a ship sitting dockside.  He also has four teams armed with SA-14s.  They were smuggled via the blackmarket from Libyan stocks and should come as a surprise to the Americans.

They'll launch on command.

The last flight of MV-22s was coming in just at sunset.  It was a beautiful day in a land of devastation and the Marines felt proud of the role that they played in helping get the Philippine people back on their feet.  The Commandant (another air winger) had been bragging about the efficiency of this new air centric MEU and how it was tailor made for humanitarian relief operations.

We would soon see how it stacked up to a coordinated helo ambush.

The rebel  commander waited till two of the MV-22s were in a hover getting ready to land on the ship while two others were also hovering a bit behind and  further back from the deck.

The results were impressive.  He ordered his men to aim as close to the waterline of the ship as they could and his SAM teams were equally effective.

The MV-22 can hover if it loses power in an engine...but not if it loses an engine and the rotor.

Two of the MV-22s were shot down over the ship,causing secondary explosions and additional loss of life on the flight deck.  One other MV-22 got caught in a type of helter skelter unique to tilt rotors.  No altitude, no speed and no hope while trying to evade a missile.  He beat the missile but loss the fight against gravity.  It would be counted as pilot error for political purposes but the men of the 15th MEU knew better.  In essence enemy action caused him to attempt a maneuver that got his crew killed.  The last MEU successfully evaded the trap and landed at a Philippine military base.

The big deck didn't fare any better.  It wasn't designed to withstand relatively close range RPG fire. One lucky gunner managed to hit the engine compartment and the armor piercing warhead did the rest.

The Marine Corps first experiment with an aircentric MEU and humanitarian relief as its reason for being failed.

Grunts would once again be in charge of the Corps.

3 comments :

  1. Of interest...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W92U1EZStJY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4ou0OiTEzs&NR=1&feature=fvwp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2f2e8eYGTE

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  2. I wonder if we have already seen antihelicopter mines used in action
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeKZ-jR6UFk

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  3. Man, look at how slow those V-22s are in landing! It's an AA gunners dream!

    It's not just MANPADS we should worry about, it's also AT missiles like the AT-3 Sagger or AT-5 Spandrel, both of which Iran makes a clone of (they have also cloned the TOW) and distributes freely to groups like Hezbollah. The NORKs also make a copy of the AT-3.

    With a helo or V-22 moving slow in an LZ, it is traveling no faster than a tank or APC on a road, it is just as vulnerable. And since it is SACLOS guided, it has no worries of IR Countermeasures. Just fire a barrage at each helo, guide them in and pray one hits. Ask the IDF what AT-3 did to their Merkavas.

    If Iran or NORK wanted to make things difficult, they could just go into the AA/AT missile and gun business and start giving away thousands of DSHK/KPV/MANPADS/AT weapons to groups like AQIM, Al Shabbaab, Yemeni AQ.

    Want to make trouble for the US that has strategic implications? Here's a dozen AA weapons and 20,000 rds, have fun, courtesy of IRGC Quds Force. Training? Sure we got that, too.

    Iran itself makes licensed copes of the DShK, TOW, AT-3, RPGs, etc. and a MANPAD called Misagh-2 related to the IGLA family via China.

    NORK makes copies of AT-3s, RPGs as well as Strela/Igla families of MANPADS

    There are tens of thousands of ZU-23-2, DShK, KPV weapons in circulation not to mention NORK and Iran probably make copies of the 23mm.

    It's just a matter of time before we see mv-22s set down in some open area that is dialed in for mortars, AA guns, AT Missiles and MANPADs. yes, sure, we'll have some escorts fly in, but all it takes is one or two MV-22s getting shot down before it ends the operation.

    Then the enemy just sits back as we panic and expose more assets to rescue the casualties. It will be Desert One meets Blackhawk Down with a Little Big Horn thrown in.

    Its like we have no clue what happened in Vietnam. Feign retreat, get US units to pursue, ambush the pursuers and cut them off, then pound them as US forces try to relieve them and are in turn ambushed themselves.









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