Wednesday, August 21, 2013

How bad are things? A US Senator said the "B" word.

Thanks to ELP for the link.

via Standard.net.
CLEARFIELD — The future viability of Hill Air Force Base could hinge on the work being done by an aerospace manufacturer just a few miles down the road.
On Wednesday, ATK celebrated the completion of its 150th wing skin for the F-35 Lightning II, the 5th generation, international, multi-role fighter aircraft that will serve as the replacement to the F-16.
During an event held in ATK’s Aerospace Structures facility in Clearfield’s Freeport Center, Lockheed Martin and ATK officials and members of Utah’s Congressional Delegation highlighted ATK’s work on the F-35, as well as the fighter’s role in protecting national security and the program’s economic impact across the U.S. and within Utah.
“The work being done right here at this facility plays a huge role in Hill Air Force Base’s future,” said Utah Senator Orrin Hatch. “The F-35 is the future of the base and the work that is going on here is essential to the jet’s success.”
ATK manufactures several composite structures for the F-35 at the company’s Clearfield facility, including upper and lower wing skins, straps, engines nacelles, covers and inlet ducts.
Hill is listed as the Air Force’s preferred alternative for the location of the first two operational squadrons of the jet and a possible third squadron.
The move would bring 72 new jets to the base. Hill currently has two F-16 squadrons and 48 jets.
Hill also provides modification and maintenance support on the F-35.
Both Hatch and Utah Congressman Rob Bishop said F-35s at Hill would help secure future workloads at the base.
“The F-35 at Hill, with both the maintenance and the operational wings, helps Hill be more viable if there is ever anything like a BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure Commission),” Bishop said. “And you just never know when something like that may come along.”
Hatch said he believes Hill is in a good position should another round of BRAC come along, but the F-35 squadrons put the base in a class above the rest.
“(BRAC) is always a concern,” the senator said. “Let’s just say I’ve been in the Senate for 37 years, and there hasn’t been a year when I haven’t had to make sure Hill was in good shape. But with the F-35, we’re in a great spot.”
While the discussion at Wednesday’s event centered around Hill, officials also lauded the F-35’s economic impact.

Bob Delaney, an executive at F-35 manufacturer Lockheed Martin, said there are more than 1,000 jobs associated with the jet in Utah, creating an $80 million economic impact. Nationwide, Delaney said, there are more than 125,000 jobs associated with the F-35.
The Air Force expects the F-35 to reach the stage of “initial operation capability” by December 2016.
When I read this on ELP's spot I was just expecting another feel good F-35 story.

What I came away with was something entirely different.

Hatch said the B word.  He talked about another round of base closings.  That tells me that the talk about serious cuts in manpower isn't just talk.  This time its real.  Congress protects bases like a mother protects her child (a good mother...I don't know how many still exist if you consider news reports).

I seriously can't wait for the other military blogs to dial into what is becoming painfully obvious.

When that happens its going to be pandemonium   Fingers will be pointed and rivalries exposed.  Army vs. Air Force, Air Forces vs. Navy, Marines vs. Everyone and so on.  This is going to be fascinating.  Amazing.  Anything but fun.

7 comments :

  1. If we are cut that low, say good bye to Grand Strategy or anything but the most limp-dick foreign policy. We won't be able to do anything for our allies except offer limited support.

    And once that spiral downward begins, it won't ever go back up. Ever.

    Could we even be able to project a force large enough to deter or defeat our enemies? Is this the end of the US as a super power?

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    1. i would say that we're seeing the same thing that we did during the time right after the first world war. the US as a country seems to be tired of foreign interventions and this globalization scheme seems to be unraveling as we speak.

      so yeah I think you're right. at this moment i don't think we can call ourselves a superpower and Hagel basically said as much. he predicted a period of US weakness and that the American people would have to adapt to that reality.

      i just hoped he was talking about a future time. not now.

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  2. So many billions for 150000 jobs ? How can it be used as arguments ? It's not like the millions of $ didn't go to Locked Martin pockets...

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  3. The last round of BRAC gave us a whole bunch of "Joint Bases" which pushed services together. Expect more of the same "consolidation" in the next round as smaller bases close and larger bases get more crowded.

    With the movement of Headquaters elements going around, I would expect some of our more expensive Florida Air Force bases to start getting a good hard look at the chopping block. Seriously, Florida isn't so huge a training area that it takes 5 bases. Think about how much money the city of Tampa could make by assuming the property on MacDill if CENTCOM HQ were moved to Eglin, or Tyndal.

    The Air Force may have to start sacrificing bases on the alter of the F-35. The Army cut deep pretty early, the only real cost savings left would be the smallest of the big bases, like Fort Drum.

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  4. Joint Bases look at Europe, they have 2 USAF Bases in Germany with 1 squadron at each. Between Ramstein and Spangdahlem they have do not have a wing. Then we have the useless share a nuke sites. What about Garmicsh? How about the Pre-position the Marines have in Norway for 15000 personnel to repel a Soviet invasion....?

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    1. the problem is they never look at over seas concerns first they'll slash US bases and when talk turns to bringing the troops and gear home suddenly it has to be delayed because we have no place to put them.

      i don't disagree that we have excess capacity. i just want us to be smart if we do this again.

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  5. Prepo stocks are not a huge bugetary item, the biggest issue with prepo stocks is that they never the "latest and greatest" warfighting tools.

    As far as not having places stateside to put stuff, that's not an issue either. Between National Guard and Reserve Bases, Arsenals, and Army Depots (where you'd be lucky to find one green suiter on the post) there is plenty of space. Ogden, Sierra, Umatilla to name three depots off the top of my head. Redstone and Picatinny Arsenals are probably the most famous. And Fort Dix isn't exactly "tiny" by any stretch of the imagination.

    The hard mix is figuring out how to support our treaty commitments with a reduced force in a budget constrained environment with an aging ground fighting force designed to combat a threat that passed away in 1989.

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