Saturday, August 03, 2013

S-92. The Next Air Force Rescue Helo?



via the Chicago Tribune.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Air Force has delayed the award of a contract valued at up to $6.8 billion for a new combat search and rescue helicopter program until the first quarter of fiscal year 2014, which begins October 1, spokesman Ed Gulick said.
The expected winner is Sikorsky Aircraft, a unit of United Technologies Corp, after all other potential bidders dropped out of the competition last December.
Gulick said the award date had slipped from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2013 due to several factors, including time required to complete an independent cost estimate and the impact of government furloughs.
He said an initial delay in the release of the terms of the competition for 112 new helicopters also played a role, but insisted it was not related to the number of bid submitted.
All but one of the contractors expected to bid for the work dropped out last December, effectively ceding the competition to Sikorsky and its key subcontractor, Lockheed Martin Corp.
Boeing Co, Textron Inc's Bell Helicopter unit, EADS and Northrop Grumman Corp teamed with AgustaWestland, part of Italy's Finmeccanica SpA, decided to skip the competition after concluding the bidding rules were so narrowly framed that they effectively excluded all but Sikorsky's Black Hawk helicopter from the competition.
The Air Force denies the competition was written to favor Sikorsky, arguing that it wrote the terms of the competition to be as clear as possible with potential bidders about what capabilities the Air Force wanted and could afford.
Frans Jurgens, spokesman for Sikorsky, said the company had received numerous queries from the Air Force during the competition, and looked forward to a contract award.
"During the last several months, Sikorsky has interacted with the Air Force to conduct an extensive evaluation of our CRH proposal. We are ready to begin work building a proven, cost-effective CRH-60 aircraft at the service's convenience," he said.
Dan Spoor, vice president of aviation systems for Lockheed Martin's Mission Systems and Training business, said Lockheed had spent a fair amount of time responding to queries from the Air Force that are called "evaluation notices."
Asked if the Air Force had changed its process as a result of the other bidders dropping out, Spoor said, "They had the same rigorous process that they've done in the past."
The Air Force has been trying to replace its aging fleet of Sikorsky HH-60 Pave Hawk helicopters for many years. In 2006, it picked Boeing's H-47 Chinook helicopter, but the Pentagon canceled the $15 billion contract in 2009 after multiple protests by the losing bidders.
Defense analyst Loren Thompson, with the Lexington Institute, said the Air Force was determined to make sure that this contract award was airtight, after several embarrassing acquisition problems in recent years.
Assuming sequestration doesn't kill the thing, then it looks like the S-92 will get its first DoD order.  While I like the concept of a product improved UH-60 (which the S-92 represents) I'm not sure that it fits what's needed in a Pacific shift.  You're talking about crazy long distance rescues over water.

Which brings me to the next real issue for the USAF.  The US Navy doesn't have any dedicated medical evacuation helicopters.  It does have Corpsmen and Rescue Swimmer scattered throughout the fleet.  Want to see something joint emerge?  Send a few rescue helos out to the LCS and have them form temporary detachments.  If nothing else experiment with the concept to see if it might bring value.

A shift to the Pacific and a real counterweight to Chinese aggression will require more work, more planning and more effort than I'm seeing so far.  Words are nice but it has to translate to action or its meaningless.

12 comments :

  1. To expand your idea - the Navy corpsmen are typically better trained medically than the medics on USAF helicopters. Given the long distances and long treatment times possible, a Navy corpsman with augmented equipment in the aircraft might be a very good choice.

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    1. well you're going to love the next post. i cover the medical facilities for a MEU and some of the problems that are present. i'd love to see your comment on that one!

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  2. I would think the Cv-22 would make a good SAR aircraft

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    1. if you have over 100millionn dollars per copy to pay for it then yeah...it would make an outstanding SAR airplane.

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    2. Too much rotor wash with the V22 to be a good SAR bird.

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    3. yeah i heard that about fast roping from it and rapelling but they seem to be doing it. additionally something must have been worked out because AFSOC wanted to take over the CSAR mission from the regular Air Force and wanted to use CV-22's in the role.

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  3. Something worked out? If you mean SOCOM lying about the CV22s hover capabilities just so they could try and get the mission, yeah. Also only being able to fast rope from the tail sucks, especially since you have to brunt your way through the downwash and lastly do you really think hoisting from the tail ramp is a good idea? No. Completely out of view from the pilot and has to rely all on the FEs commands. Oh and you better make sure there's no heavy crosswind while hoisting either...

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  4. Wll this is interesting. The all helo builders but Bell-Boeing have backed out of VXX procurement. but their S-92 is in the running for the USAF acquisition?
    Remember the Air Force's checkered a/c acquisition history?

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  5. Sikorsky can stick the S-92 up where the sun don't shine when it comes to marketing it towards military use.

    Canada ordered a militarized S-92 (the CH-148 "Cyclone") to replace the Sea King ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO. Not a single one has been delivered, and none are expected operating until the second half of the decade. The original service date was 2008.

    It's a civvy chopper. Leave it as such. Us Canadians are still getting burned.

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    1. http://skiesmag.com/news/articles/19412-spooling-up-the-cyclones.html

      This article diminishes the validity of claims about Canadian's getting burned by Sikorsky. Interestingly enough, the article is from a Canadian aviation magazine. Food for thought...

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    2. then it looks like the S-92 will get its first DoD order.

      No they are buying H-60s. Its already been decided.

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