I would love to see how this turned out!
Tuesday, October 02, 2012
Monday, October 01, 2012
Enhanced Mojave Viper bites the dust. Now its ITX,
Ok. This makes sense. As CDR Salamander would say "this is fullbore"...or URR "about damn time!"
Marines hunt down insurgents in southern Afghanistan
I love grunt talk. "We go out and punch'em in the mouth"....That's pure dee awesome.
BAE's Marine Personnel Carrier...An interview
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| pic courtesy BAE |
Sea Keeping.
The BAE MPC has under gone testing in Europe and has even swam out to an LST for testing of its coming aboard and departing the ship. In addition BAE is using extensive modeling to ensure that it meets Marine Corps requirements. Its been tested to sea state 2 and has been modeled up to sea state 3. If BAE is able to get the vehicle to actually operate in sea state 3 then that would equal the AAV and would be best swimming wheeled vehicle ever designed.
Engine.
The engine is a 560 horsepower Iveco power plant. It can be tweaked to give increased power if necessary but it should be noted that at this setting the only vehicle in US service that would boast more horsepower (at least to my knowledge) is the Abrams Main Battle Tank.
Side Vent.
I expressed concerns to Jared that the vent on the side of the vehicle (easily seen in the pic above) would be a hit sink and would give away the vehicle when viewed through IR devices or could leak when the vehicle was in the water. Nunn's answer surprised me. On land the exhaust from the engine is mixed with cool air to reduce the heat signature. Sorta like the way the AH-64 does with its engine exhaust to reduce its signature to heat seeking missiles. What happens when its in the water is extremely unique though. When in the water, the vent actually allows water into the engine bay and by that process the engine is cooled. Simple yet elegant.
Protection/Armor.
I asked which armor maker they were using --- Plasan or IBD. They've done work with IBD but the armor package will be in house via BAE. Blast seats (suspended) and other now standard anti-ied/blast protection is part of the requirement and will be included in the vehicle.
SUPER AV or US Marine Corps Specific?
One misconception floating around the Internet when it comes to this vehicle is that its the Super AV currently in use by the Italian Army and Marine Corps. It isn't. When the USMC first announced this requirement, BAE noticed that the Italian Marine Corps requirement was similar. This led to the partnership with Iveco. Further testing and a closer look at what was being asked for in the Marine Personnel Carrier led to changes in the vehicle. I have said previously that the requirement to transport 95th percentile Marines is a no compromise area in this or any vehicles design and that led to BAE designing a larger vehicle than the Italian version. Other requirements led to the design becoming USMC specific.
Mil Spec or Commercial?
The next question I had concerned whether the vehicles parts would be mil spec or commercial. My thinking was that mil spec parts are always of a higher standard. John stated that contrary to popular belief, in many cases commercial parts are of better quality than mil spec. He explained it this way. Iveco is a large truck manufacturer, and those vehicles can rack up a hundred thousand miles a year or more. Military vehicles often will travel only a couple hundred. The BAE MPC is being designed to utilize off the shelf components wherever possible but not at the expense of durability or reliability.
US or Overseas content?
With all military programs a certain amount of US content is required. John state that the BAE MPC will have upwards of 70 percent US content. Additionally it would make use of Iveco's world wide distribution network. That means that they can leverage Chrysler, or Case International manufacturing facilities here in the US. American jobs will be created making the vehicle an economic multiplier. As a side note, the Boeing 787 has 70 percent US content and is considered a US product.
Cube Space on board ship.
The BAE MPC is required to occupy the same or less space than the AAV. It meets those requirements with room to spare. I expressed concern when pics of the vehicle appeared on the net showing it to be a rather large vehicle. Those concerns were misplaced. As stated previously the vehicle has been tested on older LST type ships and was able to get on and off without problem. Operating off the San Antonio Class LPD or any of the LHA/LHD's currently in service should be no problem.
Overview.
An interesting contender in the MPC contest. I've already sent e-mails to Lockheed Martin, SAIC and General Dynamics to see if they'll be as willing as BAE to discuss their offerings.
Personal Observation.
The Amphibious Combat Vehicle and the Marine Personnel Carrier are, as noted by the Congressional Research Office, quite similar in requirements. The major difference is ship to shore capability. For the ACV that is a primary requirement, for the MPC its secondary with the crossing of inland water ways and inland mobility being primary. IF the MPC can operate in sea state 3 and IF it is capable of making that transit at current or better AAV speed then we could easily see these programs merge. This program and ALL the contestants are worth watching.
UPDATE:
John in the comments asked about weapons fit. That was discussed. The program manager stated that the vehicle requirements that they're prepping the vehicle to meet has as part of it the ability to mount anything from a 50 cal to a 30mm cannon. John also asked about mobility and brought back memories of 29 stumps and washboard road. I didn't cover off road mobility. I'll make contact and get info on that.
UPDATE 1:
I e-mailed Sarah to get further info on John's question about the BAE MPC's mobility. She contacted the Program Manager and hit me with this. "Our MPC offering is governed for 65 MPH on road speed with up to 45 MPH off road as to compliment the M1A1 mobility in most mission profiles." That means it meets the gold standard of being able to keep up with the Abrams. If you remember the initial assault into Iraq during the 2nd Gulf War then you understand why this requirement is so important to the Marine Corps.
Sunday, September 30, 2012
They're not worth it.
Check out the latest from AP.
Nuff said.
These bastards aren't worth it.
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- A firefight broke out between U.S. forces and their Afghan army allies in eastern Afghanistan Sunday, killing two Americans and three Afghan soldiers and pushing the number of U.S. troops killed in the long-running war 2,000.The fighting started Saturday when what is believed to have been a mortar fired by insurgents struck a checkpoint set up by U.S. forces in Wardak province, said Shahidullah Shahid, a provincial government spokesman. He said the Americans thought they were under attack from a nearby Afghan army checkpoint and fired on it, prompting the Afghan soldiers to return fire.The Afghan Defense Ministry said the gunbattle was the result of a "misunderstanding" between international forces and Afghan soldiers manning a checkpoint in the Sayd Abad district.NATO's International Security Assistance Force, commonly referred to as ISAF, provided a different account."After a short conversation took place between (Afghan army) and ISAF personnel firing occurred which resulted in the fatal wounding of an ISAF soldier and the death of his civilian colleague," the coalition said in a statement. It said the three Afghan soldiers died "in an ensuing exchange of fire."NATO did not say whether it considered this an "insider" attack on foreign forces by Afghan allies.There has been rising tide of such attacks in which Afghan soldiers or police assault their international allies. The killings pose one of the greatest threats to NATO's mission in the country, endangering a partnership key to training up Afghan security forces and withdrawing international troops.While it may be days before it becomes clear who fired on whom first, the incident illustrates how tense relations have become between international troops and their Afghan allies.Officials on both sides went into damage control mode, arguing that Saturday's violence did not mark a new low in Afghan-U.S. relations and urging patience while investigators tried to figure out exactly what had happened.The deputy commander of NATO's military force in Afghanistan, British Lt. Gen. Adrian Bradshaw, called a last-minute news conference in Kabul to address the incident, even though he had few details to give.He said the initial report of an insider attack should be amended to note that the incident "is now understood possibly to have involved insurgent fire," and tried to stress that relations between international troops and their Afghan allies "are very strong and very effective."A spokesman for the Afghan Defense Ministry, Gen. Zahir Azimi, also sought to downplay the incident."In a misunderstanding shooting broke out between Afghan army and ISAF forces. As a result of the shooting, three army soldiers were killed, three other soldiers were wounded and number of ISAF forces were killed and wounded," Azimi said in a statement.
Nuff said.
US Navy acts to control tensions in the Pacific.
S. Korea and Japan have been nose to nose. China and the Philippines have been nose to nose. Taiwan and Japan have been nose to nose...and we haven't heard one response from our State Dept. Instead we have a response from the US Navy in the form of TWO carrier battle groups being sent to the region to calm things down. Check out this press release from the Commander of the 7th Fleet.
Conflict will break out. The best we can hope for is that its contained, and doesn't have longer lasting implications for regional security. Confidence is not high. Some of the most technologically advanced forces on the planet are nose to nose. THIS WILL TURN UGLY.
Two of the U.S. Navy's global force aircraft carrier strike groups (CSGs) are currently conducting operations in the vital Asia-Pacific region.&
Ships of the forward-deployed George Washington CSG, to include the aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73), its embarked air wing, Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 5, the guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens (CG 63) and the guided missile destroyer USS McCampbell (DDG 85); coupled with the ships of the John C. Stennis CSG, to include the Bremerton, Wash.-based aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74), its embarked CVW 9, and the San Diego-based guided-missile cruiser USS Mobile Bay (CG 53); are currently patrolling the Western Pacific. They are providing a combat-ready force that protects and defends the collective maritime interest of the United States and its allies and partners.
The two CSGs are part of a strong U.S. naval presence in the Pacific that has helped to maintain peace and stability in the region as part of the U.S. 7th Fleet, which was established 69 years ago. USS John C. Stennis returned to the 7th Fleet's area of operation four months ahead of schedule to maintain combatant commander requirements for its presence in the region. The crew has been engaging in live-fire exercises, torpedo countermeasures exercises and numerous other training exercises during its current deployment and transit to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations.The issues between these nations stretch back for centuries...in most cases long before the US was even discovered. Racial, economic and territorial differences make this almost unsolvable.
Conflict will break out. The best we can hope for is that its contained, and doesn't have longer lasting implications for regional security. Confidence is not high. Some of the most technologically advanced forces on the planet are nose to nose. THIS WILL TURN UGLY.
Saturday, September 29, 2012
F-35's future? Super Cruise!
via Why the F-35 Blog...
I love it!
AFRL calculates adaptive technology will improve engine fuel efficiency by 25% over the F135 powering the F-35, increasing aircraft combat radius by 25-30% and persistence by 30-40%. The engine could also help address the anti-access/area-denial challenges posed by a potential conflict with an near-peer adversary such as China, says AFRL. This could be achieved via increasing supersonic-cruise radius by 50% and reducing the aerial-refueling tanker burden by 30-74%.Go to his site to read the whole thing but yeah. You read that right. Even before the F-35 enters frontline service plans are already being laid for the airplane that the USMC, USN, USAF and our allies are going to depend on....WILL SUPER CRUISE!
I love it!
Mass Casualty Exercise Horn of Africa.
When did the Army develop Site Security Teams?
Congressional trouble for Marine armor and the possible outcome.
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| Another view of the SUPERAV via Defensenews.com |
First this...
Then...Legislative provisions in the FY2013 National Defense Authorization Act suggest despite Marine Corps testimony to the congressional defense committees in early 2012, Congress continues to have questions regarding the ACV/MPC fleet mix. In the previously discussed RFIs for both vehicles, the ACV must be able to self-deploy from amphibious shipping and deliver a reinforced Marine infantry squad (17 Marines) from a launch distance at or beyond 12 miles, while the MPC must have a “robust tactical swim capability (shore-to-shore) and be capable of operating at 6 knots in a fully developed sea.” Some analysts note the similarity in requirements and question whether, in an era of fiscal constraint, two different vehicles are needed.
The ACV is scheduled to achieve Initial Operating Capability (IOC)24 between FY2020 and FY2022, depending on the outcome of the Analysis of Alternatives (AoA)25 and final acquisition plans. The MPC is scheduled to achieve IOC in FY2022These and a few other simple questions being asked by the eggheads in the CRO should concern anyone that has an interest in Marine Corps armored vehicles.
My issues are as follows...
1. The MPC is up and running. The requirements are set, testing will begin next summer and at least Lockheed Martin/Patria and BAE/Iveco are ready to go NOW. The ACV is still vaporware. Yet for some reason we're staging the introduction of the MPC AFTER the ACV. From the outside looking in, it appears that we're going to have a winner of the MPC contest waiting and ready to go while we get the ACV sorted out and in production. Correction, until we get it sorted out and production complete! That just doesn't seem like a realistic plan. Not for the Marine Corps or the manufacturer that wins.
2. The requirements are so similar and I feel confident (at least right now) that both the HAVOC and the SUPERAV will crush it. They'll perform up to standards and probably beyond. How are we going to get the ACV into production (assuming this jacked production scheme actually passing Congressional muster) when the powers that be are going to be looking at vehicles that are "almost" as good as the ACV is suppose to be at lower cost?
Read the entire report for yourself though. As it currently stands confidence is NOT high when it comes to believing that the Marine Corps will successfully navigate the current plan.
Unless leadership gets a handle on our amphibious vehicle issues and quick I'm afraid that we're going to see another EFV debacle. Only this time not because of cost but because of a failed plan implemented poorly.
Marine Corps Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV) and Marine Personnel Carrier (MPC): Background and Issues for ...
Don't fuck with a vet!
via CDR Salamander. This is good stuff! Like Sal says, West went nuclear. This race is over. I can't wait to watch Rachael Maddow's reaction to this commercial.
Futuristic Indonesian Patrol Boat goes up in flames!
NAVY RECOGNITION is reporting that Indonesia's futuristic patrol boat...yeah, the one they just put into service last month. Went up in flames! Amazing! Go to his spot for details.
Friday, September 28, 2012
Royal Navy and Marines at Exercise Cougar.
“Cougar 12 provides us with a superb opportunity to rekindle our amphibious capability after a prolonged period when our focus has been on operations elsewhere. “
Commodore McAlpineParticipants in Cougar 12 are:
HMS Bulwark
HMS Illustrious
HMS Northumberland
HMS Montrose
RFA Mounts Bay
MV Hartland Point
Headquarters of 3 Commando Brigade
45 Commando (currently the UK’s on-call Royal Marines unit ready to respond to world events)
30 Commando IX Group
539 Assault Squadron Royal Marines
814 Naval Air Squadron (Merlins)
815 Naval Air Squadron (Lynx)
829 Naval Air Squadron (Merlins)
845 Naval Air Squadron (Commando-carrying Sea Kings)
846 Naval Air Squadron (Commando-carrying Sea Kings)
854 Naval Air Squadron (airborne surveillance and control Sea Kings)
656 Squadron Army Air Corps (Apache gunships)
659 Squadron Army Air Corps (Lynx)
Thursday, September 27, 2012
The LVTP-5. A warning for current Marine Corps vehicle procurement.
If you asked a Marine about tracked landing vehicles many could name the LVT1 through 4 that served during World War II.
Some could name the LVT(C)3 that served during the Korean War.
But I personally wonder how many know about the LVTP-5. It was designed after the Korean War and the Marine Corps at the time was in the same spot that it finds itself in today. The Marine Corps had just finished with a relatively long (at the time) war/police action that was somewhat controversial, not at all popular and lacking in total public support. In other words the country was war weary after having just fought WWII and Korea. The Marine Corps found itself under attack with many critics having called for its elimination and even more people calling it a second land army.
The greats of that time vowed to get the Marine Corps feet wet again and the push was on to make sure that the Marine Corps was viewed as an amphibious force first and foremost. That would extend to its equipment, its doctrine and its vehicles.
From this muddle the LVTP-5 was born. Check out these stats from Wikipedia.
| Specifications | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Weight | 37.4 t | |||
| Length | 9.04 m | |||
| Width | 3.57 m | |||
| Height | 2.92 m | |||
| Crew | 3+34 passengers | |||
| Main armament | .30 caliber MG | |||
| Engine | Continental LV-1790-1 V-12 gasoline 704 hp | |||
| Power/weight | 19 hp/tonne | |||
| Suspension | Torsilastic | |||
| Operational range | 306 km (road), 92 km (water) | |||
| Speed | 48 km/h, in water 11 km/h | |||
Yeah you're reading that right. 34 fully equipped Combat Marines. 37 tons. Almost 8mph in the water. That has all the hallmarks of a winning amphibious vehicle right?
Wrong.
The specifications were for 50% water/50% land. In other words it was estimated that the vehicle would spend at least half its time in the water. During exercises and during the buildup to full fledged combat in Vietnam it served well.
Once the action heated up it didn't.
The problem. The vehicle was OUTSTANDING in water. On land its suspension broke, it couldn't handle its own weight and it was vulnerable to landmines...so vulnerable that Marines rode on top of the vehicle and risked being shot instead of inside where a landmine would cause flash fires to erupt.
The warning for the Marine Corps today is to make sure that the vehicles that are bought are robust enough for extended land combat. Being good in the water is not enough. Never forget the 2nd Gulf War and the march into Iraq. Marine supply lines were stretched, our vehicles had trouble maintaing the momentum and it took will power and pure stubborness not to get left behind in the Army's dust.
We need amphibious vehicles that can make it to shore and THEN keep up with an M1 Abrams main battle tank cross country. That is the measuring stick. Anything else just won't do. We must not repeat the LVTP-5 experience.
Dirty Secrets. Taiwan and Japan nose to nose...
One thing that amazes me about my fellow citizens is the lack of knowledge with regards to the Asian nations. Few know that these nations have long standing animositiy towards each other and that the only thing thats kept them from heading towards all out warfare is trade AND the threat from first the Soviet Union and now China.
South Korea and Japan. Mortal enemies. Vietnam and China. Mortal enemies. China and Japan. Mortal enemies. The list goes on and suprisingly enough (at least its my impression) its a mix of racial pride, economic tension over resources and issues with immigration. The latest two countries to go head to head? Japan and Taiwan. Check out this story and pics from China Smack.
Long story short. We need to make the turn to the Pacific just so we can keep our friends from starting a war with each other. But even with a strong US presence in the area I wonder how long the lid can be kept on these long simmering tensions.
South Korea and Japan. Mortal enemies. Vietnam and China. Mortal enemies. China and Japan. Mortal enemies. The list goes on and suprisingly enough (at least its my impression) its a mix of racial pride, economic tension over resources and issues with immigration. The latest two countries to go head to head? Japan and Taiwan. Check out this story and pics from China Smack.
In connection with the recent largest-in-history people’s protest for the protection of the Diaoyu Islands, Taiwan’s “Coast Guard” has dispatched over 10 naval ships in escort, including 100 ton, 500 ton, 1000 ton, and 2000 ton warships as well as established an emergency contingency center and command headquarters, to protect the fishing vessels.With regards to the people protesting for the protection of the Diaoyu Islands, Taiwanese authorities have also given approval and support. Ma Ying-jeou expressed on the 24th that Taiwanese fishermen have been catching fish in the waters around the Diaoyu Islands for hundreds of years but now often suffer interference from Japan’s Coast Guard, which makes the fishermen extremely angry. He said, “If this problem can’t be resolved, it may also be very difficult to sit down and discuss other issues”. The Ma Administration emphasized on the 24th that the Yilan fishermen heading towards the waters of the Diaoyu Islands were sailing out on “legal/lawful” fishing operations and that the “Coast Guard” would definitely protect them, also dispatching multiple warships to escort them.
F-35B with AIM-9X
USMC 3-gun.
I have a huge problem with the USMC running 3-gun. First if you're gonna do it then they should stick with issue weapons...and I'm not talking about MARSOC issued weapons but those found in the Fleet. Second, lets face it. If this video is any example (and I'm not sure it is) then they're gonna get smoked cause even on the local level, guys come hard. Race guns are all over, extended shotgun and speedloaders are all the norm. And finally I just don't see how the sport of 3-gun (and it is a sport) increases combat effectiveness. I mean seriously! Some of the shooting positions that started in 3-gun that have been adopted by the "forward" thinking military shooters are just down right silly. Contorted firing positions when its still possible to adopt a more conventional AND stable one to shoot from. The idea of firing from your back...approaching a target while shooting? Its all bullshit and most people know it but don't know why. I do. If you've ever been shot at then you know that you do it from cover. If you've ever shot at someone then you know that you're not advancing on the target while doing it. You take up a position that provides cover and you try to put them away.
The Marine Corps really needs to rethink its approach to the shooting sports. Its gone from being combat based to something else.
NOTE:
The photos below are from AR-15.net. I didn't know it but they've been all over the "new" shooting positions and have had fiery debates on the subject. To sum it up...no one could name one of the "new" shooting positions that was superior to the traditional ones. As a matter of fact the debate ended with one of the commenters saying that the "new" positions were just more "ninja" looking.
Wednesday, September 26, 2012
British General kicks ass about firms hating the reserve!
Wow. Different country, same issue. Amazing.
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