Wednesday, April 30, 2014

America losing faith in the military...


I told you this would happen,.

You wanted change?  Well this is what it looks like.  You start playing games with the military as a prop, you start using the military as a lab for social experiments...and you remove the bonds between those that are serving with those that have served and you have this.

47% might not seem like a bad number, but this is only the beginning.  The Pentagon is now just another government bureaucracy.  What does that mean for the future?

Budgets will continue to be tight because the people that once carried no longer do.  In 10 years the military will be viewed in the same light as State govt.

You heard it here first.

11 comments :

  1. I'm not so sure I'm seeing what you're saying. All I can see is that someone needs to take a basic statistics class...

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    1. if you don't see it then its because you're choosing to be willfully ignorant. no time for clowns. see ya.

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    2. See what? The military's "trust index" fluctuated in the low fifties and was at 47% at last count. You're trying to create a trend using a single data point.

      As a general rule, anyone who tries to make a statement or point to a trend using a single data point is either ignorant or biased.

      Furthermore, given the margin of error that's typically found in opinion polls (anywhere from +/- 3% to +/- 8% or so), 47% is within the margin of error of the median "trust rating" (53%). In other words, it's noise.

      Finally, the idea that you can determine long-term trends by looking at just four years of opinion polls is pretty... interesting. Typically, if you want to see how public trust of an institution changes over long periods of time, you use data points covering a decade or more.

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    3. not a single data point but a trend that has been arching down since the middle of the Bush Administration. the point remains. you wish to be willfully ignorant.

      if you want to impress the class then do your homework and look at the 'trust' index since the 1970's.

      as it stands you're just a chimp throwing shit at the spectators.

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    4. To illustrate the effect of using a single data point to claim there's a trend, I could just as easily have claimed that the rise in the military as trust rating in 2012 from 50% to 55% indicates that Americans trust the military *more* than ever. As you can see, you can't just use a single poll result and draw a trend.

      Also, the poll only includes those who trust the military "all or most of the time.". Typically, approval ratings are calculated by combining the percentage of people who agree with something "all or most of the time" with those who state they agree "some of the time.". Using a single classification doesn't show the full picture.

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    5. The image you showed shows only four years of data and no values lying outside the likely margin of error of the poll. If you want to make larger claims, you gotta supply larger evidence.

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    6. no clown. i threw down the gauntlet. you pick it up by doing a simple Google search and then re-entering the arena.

      but you don't want to do that do you? you want me to do the work for you and then you'll simply come up with someother bullshit ass excuse to explain why you're still right?

      i don't fucking think so. pound sand.

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    7. Typically, the burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. If you insist upon breaking that rule of debate, then I suppose I shall have to find your claimed evidence myself.

      Also, claiming that a single data point isn't enough evidence to extrapolate a trend and stating that two poll results are probably within the margin of error of each other isn't "bullshit ass excuse."

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  2. I think if people lose trust in the military, it's probably because there's a general discontent with the govt and because so few Americans join or know someone in the service.Plus, growing numbers are aware of crap projects like JSF or LCS that provide little value, except for defense contractors,IMO.

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  3. Not America, millennials.

    Harvard's poll showed millennials, which the pollsters defined as peopled aged 18 to 29, have lost trust in a variety of different major public institutions including the President, the military, Congress, the Supreme Court, and the federal government as a whole. Of all the institutions tracked by the poll, the President and the military lost the most trust among young Americans with a seven point drop. Overall, the pollsters said the level of trust millennials have in "most American institutions tested in our survey" had dropped below even "last year’s historically low numbers."
    http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-millenials-have-historically-low-levels-of-trust-in-government-2014-4

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  4. I wonder what these numbers would have looked like after Vietnam. And also after the release of "Top Gun." I really believe hollywood runs the public as much as, if not more than, anything else.

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