Saturday, January 24, 2015

82nd Airborne inches toward mechanization.



This is an interesting development.  Using militarized ATVs for this role isn't what many want but as an interim step it makes sense.  Additionally support in the field will be easy, you can't argue with its agility in the field or the ability to transport them by C-130, C-5, CH-47 or UH-60.

By pushing the concept forward and getting what is available into the field, the Army might have hit on the vehicle it actually needs going into the future.

Which riles up the biased Marine in me.

The US Army isn't drinking our milkshake...yet.  But they have their straws out and its aimed squarely at our beverage.  Question.  Which would you rather have.  A brigade from the 82nd that can be on the ground in 72 hours (sooner if you're planning properly....meaning you have them on alert before needed) or a SPMAGTF-CR that can arrive with a company (+) of Marines?  Now toss in the idea that the brigade from the 82nd will have mechanized ground mobility and our Marines will be foot mobile and what are your thoughts?

I stand by my earlier contention that the solution is to reinforce the MEU by adding AFSB's to each MEU.  Trash the SPMAGTF-CR concept and simply use the MV-22 to add distance to the reach of each deployed MEU....maybe use it as an early entry force for the MEU before the full strength of the formation can be brought to bear...but as an individual unit...trash it.  Simply enlarge the Air Company and reinforce it if necessary.

Meanwhile the US Army/82nd Airborne is starting to complain that we ordered a strawberry shake instead of the mango peach that they love.

7 comments :

  1. The MV-22 is not the aircraft for that job.

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    1. i totally agree. if i was running the USMC you would see a mix of MH-60's and CH-53K's....but its not what we have or what leadership decided to buy.

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  2. I am just wondering because I just don't understand. Why is are tiltrotors so disliked? If it is just the fact that cobras don't have the range and can't keep up with the MV-22s why not take money from the F-35 for when it is finally cancelled and make a tiltrotor gunship?

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    1. because they're not delivering what was promised. we thought we would be getting an airplane that is in every phase of flight superior to the CH-46 but that isn't the case. additionally the thing puts out so much heat on deck that its changing the way we operate, its ungainly and takes up more room, its slow in the landing phase and its just not as versatile as the helicopter it replaces.

      additionally all this branding is starting to piss me off. a tilt rotor enabled ground force? really? its a fucking modified helicopter that flies to fast for escort, can't sling load to save its fucking life and is more vulnerable than the old birds. i hate it and i hate the fact that USMC leadership is acting like its the second coming.

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    2. http://www.g2mil.com/tiltrotors.htm

      This brings up a couple of reasons why.

      They combine the characteristics of a airplane and helicopter, while not being as good as either for the tasks that are required of them.

      Typical of a DOD pet rock.

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  3. I've got this mad idea of "Dragoons" on quad bikes

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  4. I disagree with the either or premise. Why not a company of each... and a battalion of each (with enhanced fires/mobility) within 48 hrs, etc??

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